The New 52 - Page 10

The Sevenshot Kid · 09-27-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus

I am a bit confused as to why Amanda Waller was rewritten from a stolid, paunchy, ruthless 50-year-old no-nonsense bureaucrat to an attractive 30-something with a sassy attitude (yes I can guess that much from one panel folks).

Green Lantern movie. That's why.

Magus · 09-27-2011, 11:38 PM

Oh dear god you're bringing back the flashbacks I just remembered that why would you do that THE PAIN

EDIT:

This version is what I'm talking about, folks:

Like seriously seeing this version of Amanda Waller say this just creates a huge "do not compute" in my brain (NOTE SPOILERS):

Hahaha no seriously what do you want us to do, sweetie? Bake cookies for all the children, right? They'll like that.

I mean this was the woman (non-canonically, I guess, but still) who wanted to make a new Batman by purposefully killing a kid's parents. It takes someone a bit older and sterner to make proclamations like this!

This is the Amanda Waller who stole my heart with her bloodthirsty ruthlessness:

The Sevenshot Kid · 09-29-2011, 08:56 PM

- All-Star Western: Best book on the stands this week. Jonah Hex teams up with Amadeus Arkham to track Gotham's first serial killer and find out they're in for more trouble than they though.
- Superman: This book has some seriously mediocre writing. It's embarrassing that this writing would be in one of DC's flagship titles. But it has a really good hook with what's going on in Clark Kent's life lately. George Perez isn't a bad writer so there's hope that he can salvage this book.
- Aquaman: Decent introduction to the character that makes him instantly accessible and likable. There's a new mystery set-up and some pretty funny bits aimed at Aquaman detractors. Give this book a chance.
- Justice League Dark: Good art, messy script. Thumb through it at the store and see if it catches yo but you probably shouldn't buy it.
- The Flash: Best art I've seen so far this week with some good writing to match. I'm not happy with a change made to the character but it has my attention.

Viridis · 09-30-2011, 01:46 AM

Aaron Diaz redesigns some heroes. I would definitely pay to read some of these.

Fifthfiend · 09-30-2011, 02:15 AM

Everyone thinks they're being really, really clever by turning Doctor Strange's cape into a coat, instead of just like, being the ten millionth person to turn Doctor Strange's cape into a coat.

The Ms. Marvel look is interesting but I think the character would get lost under alla that, and if you're gonna call out Starfire's costumes for being impractical - and god knows i'm not disagreeing here - you cannot purport to fix this problem by having this woman who fights crime and punches spacemonsters wear a miniskirt. I mean, come on.

EDIT: Actually I take that last bit back, I think it's just the way he drew it that makes it look awkward, it could probably work okay.

EDIT: Re: his Superman redesign, someone should really let him know that Martian Manhunter already exists.

Viridis · 09-30-2011, 02:38 AM

I confess that I'm just in love with Diaz's art style (mostly the coloring/shading) and am completely blind to everything else.

Fifthfiend · 09-30-2011, 03:14 AM

At least 50% of that post was my reflexive need to poop all over anything Aaron Diaz does so it all evens out, really.

Token · 09-30-2011, 08:39 AM

Am I the only person who doesn't mind the way Superman's identity used to be handled? It wasn't "just glasses" like people say, it was mannerisms, posture, voice, and all sorts of stuff. Look at All-Star Superman for example. That's not my only problem with Diaz's design, but eh.

As for this week's books, they were... welp. I sort of enjoyed New Guardians, but I'm a sucker for Kyle and the Skittle Lanterns. Flash was brilliant. And I would have liked Aquaman. I wanted to. But it treats the idea that he's useless like it's common knowledge in the DCnU, when it's only said in the real world by people who don't actually read anything with Aquaman. It's even more ridiculous in the comic, because this is a man who was one of the founding members of the Justice League. The entire time, I was just wondering when the hell Marvel's obnoxious pedestrians crossed into DC.

Teen Titans was okay. Probably gonna keep with it, but that's just because I really enjoy Superboy's writing.

Superman was... decent? One of those things where I enjoyed it at the time, but upon thinking about it later I just felt ambivalent.

The Dark Knight: sweet zombie christ that was horrible.

All-Star Western: Please, DC, take my money.

The Sevenshot Kid · 09-30-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Token

Flash was brilliant.

But how do you feel about the young Miss Iris West?

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And I would have liked Aquaman. I wanted to. But it treats the idea that he's useless like it's common knowledge in the DCnU, when it's only said in the real world by people who don't actually read anything with Aquaman. It's even more ridiculous in the comic, because this is a man who was one of the founding members of the Justice League. The entire time, I was just wondering when the hell Marvel's obnoxious pedestrians crossed into DC.

I'll admit that whole thing was ridiculous but they kind of had to do it since these books are trying to be accessible to new readers. A new reader doesn't know Aquaman is the shit so they had to tear down the classic complaints.

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Originally Posted by Token

All-Star Western: Please, DC, take my money.

Why couldn't this be the Jonah Hex movie?

Token · 09-30-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sevenshot Kid

But how do you feel about the young Miss Iris West?

I'll be honest, I never really payed much attention to Barry. Wally was my Flash. And while I understand that breaking up Barry and Iris is big, I'm not invested enough in the characters to mind.

09-27-2011, 11:38 PM	#92
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Oh dear god you're bringing back the flashbacks I just remembered that why would you do that THE PAIN EDIT: This version is what I'm talking about, folks: Like seriously seeing this version of Amanda Waller say this just creates a huge "do not compute" in my brain (NOTE SPOILERS): Hahaha no seriously what do you want us to do, sweetie? Bake cookies for all the children, right? They'll like that. I mean this was the woman (non-canonically, I guess, but still) who wanted to make a new Batman by purposefully killing a kid's parents. It takes someone a bit older and sterner to make proclamations like this! This is the Amanda Waller who stole my heart with her bloodthirsty ruthlessness: __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 09-27-2011 at 11:56 PM.

09-30-2011, 02:15 AM	#95
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Everyone thinks they're being really, really clever by turning Doctor Strange's cape into a coat, instead of just like, being the ten millionth person to turn Doctor Strange's cape into a coat. The Ms. Marvel look is interesting but I think the character would get lost under alla that, and if you're gonna call out Starfire's costumes for being impractical - and god knows i'm not disagreeing here - you cannot purport to fix this problem by having this woman who fights crime and punches spacemonsters wear a miniskirt. I mean, come on. EDIT: Actually I take that last bit back, I think it's just the way he drew it that makes it look awkward, it could probably work okay. EDIT: Re: his Superman redesign, someone should really let him know that Martian Manhunter already exists. __________________ check out my buttspresso Last edited by Fifthfiend; 09-30-2011 at 02:20 AM.

09-30-2011, 03:14 AM	#97
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	At least 50% of that post was my reflexive need to poop all over anything Aaron Diaz does so it all evens out, really. __________________ check out my buttspresso

09-30-2011, 08:39 AM	#98
Token Magikoopa Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,789	Am I the only person who doesn't mind the way Superman's identity used to be handled? It wasn't "just glasses" like people say, it was mannerisms, posture, voice, and all sorts of stuff. Look at All-Star Superman for example. That's not my only problem with Diaz's design, but eh. As for this week's books, they were... welp. I sort of enjoyed New Guardians, but I'm a sucker for Kyle and the Skittle Lanterns. Flash was brilliant. And I would have liked Aquaman. I wanted to. But it treats the idea that he's useless like it's common knowledge in the DCnU, when it's only said in the real world by people who don't actually read anything with Aquaman. It's even more ridiculous in the comic, because this is a man who was one of the founding members of the Justice League. The entire time, I was just wondering when the hell Marvel's obnoxious pedestrians crossed into DC. Teen Titans was okay. Probably gonna keep with it, but that's just because I really enjoy Superboy's writing. Superman was... decent? One of those things where I enjoyed it at the time, but upon thinking about it later I just felt ambivalent. The Dark Knight: sweet zombie christ that was horrible. All-Star Western: Please, DC, take my money.