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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:18 PM   #581
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Yea i'm going to disagree with Snakes reasoning because it's complete bullshit. There is no reason mafia can't be replaced.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:19 PM   #582
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Please Verifiedz, just stop. This thread already hurt enough to read before you started using minimal logic to try to start a bandwagon on Nikose.

Also, killing players who make role claims is not necessarily a good idea unless we have reasonable suspicion that they're lying.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:19 PM   #583
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So let me get this straight you want to vigilante to attempt to night kill a townie. To prove that he is unkillable during the night. I'm not seeing how that makes sense hawk.

Please people explain to me how their actions aren't screaming "what the fuck" at you.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:20 PM   #584
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Yea i'm going to disagree with Snakes reasoning because it's complete bullshit. There is no reason mafia can't be replaced.
Yeah. But he's not being replaced. That means that fenris is either a lazy fuck, or Julford has actually been doing stuff. It's kinda proof that he's lurking.

Snake is making the connection between lurker and mafia.

That's partly logical.
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Hmm, ok, not sure on that one. Job for the vig maybe?
Maybe, but Karesh claimed to be Fluttershy, and I didn't see that name show up in the Night 1 summary. I interpreted his role more as "regular townie, but can't be nightkilled/culted." Like, he was supposed to draw the attention of scum so that they'd waste a night action on him.

Sif - Hawk's post didn't come across to me as "the Vig should try killing Karesh to test his claim." More like, "could Karesh be a Vig?"
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:22 PM   #586
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Given that snake claimed earlier it's possible for mafia to have a 'watcher' role it's even more stupid because the mafia assuming they have that role could watch karesh to find out who the Vig is, not to mention there is no guarantee that Karesh is immune to an element of harmony being turned on him it's a stupid risk to take.
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:23 PM   #587
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I'm in agreement with Sifright, though less forcefully so. If Sifright went down, it would confirm Karesh is Fluttershy, who is suspected to be the Un-Nightkillable role- and would at least be confirmed town [Because Fluttershy is town. There's no way she's not and nobody disagrees with me on that]. His claim was essentially a way of saying "can't be nightkilled."

So let's NOT test that firing theory lest the mafia decide to do that for us and find out it was potentially a bluff. Why waste the vig kill and do two blind kills?
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:23 PM   #588
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Ok so how do you interpret "Karesh claimed to be unkillable job for the vig?"

Like what the fuck how do you interpret it as anything other than "Yo vigilante go murder karesh trololol"
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Unread 09-30-2011, 04:24 PM   #589
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It was just a random thought but it kinda makes sense. If Karesh is unkillable then we can now confirm it. The fluff that Fenris gives us will show the vig attacking karesh, and if karesh is still around in the day, he's confirmed town.

Of course it does waste a vig kill. And this is assuming karesh even is unkillable, which he never outright said.
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Wait, Elements of harmony? What role do they play in this game?
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