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Unread 10-05-2011, 09:41 PM   #911
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Justification of killing inactives.

Edit: Note Smb was in favour of this tactic and he was scum
That's the same thing I just said though, above. In fact, my second quote is almost literally what I said above, and taken extremely out of context.

Someone said that killing inactives was all positives. I responded with, "Killing inactives isn't all positives, it's just low negatives. There's a difference.

It doesn't gives us progress, it just keeps us from killing someone who would be good for the town to have around. And we burn a lynch."

That "And we burn a lynch" was, if I remember correctly, referring to what I said earlier about killing an inactive townie being a bad thing because it's the same as a no-vote.
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Unread 10-05-2011, 09:42 PM   #912
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So, back on the topic of who to lynch. What ever happened to killing off the inactives? I mean, we agreed pretty early on that inactives are detrimental to the Town regardless of whether they're scum or not. So why are we wasting time trying to figure out who MIGHT be scum when we can get almost all positives from booting an inactive out?
In fact, here's the post I was responding to, two posts up. It wasn't a post defending the idea to kill inactives, but responding to Gregness's post, where he asked why we wouldn't.


Edit: You can see the post that I'm quoting by clicking the blue arrow next to the name, if anyone doesn't know that.
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Unread 10-05-2011, 09:46 PM   #913
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What?
Firstly we don't "burn a lynch", we use a lynch when no other targets are present. If we don't lynch anyone that is burning a lynch and that is about the worst thing the town can do. And we don't have unlimited time to make a decision so if no other target presents itself an inactive is a good one to go.
Why? Because a high proportion of inactives massively favour scum- they know who each other are, they can coordinate durin gthe day and don't even really nered lynches that much.
By keeping inactives you cut off the flow of information to the town by stopping discussion, you make it more likely that you are going to need to rely on scum to get lynches over the threshold and you make it easier for scum to float to the end by not getting involved in fights.
And then literally the next post, Smarty is arguing against my reasoning that killing an inactive is like a no-vote, if we hit a townie, and saying how I'm wrong and we ought to kill an inactive.

It feels almost like you're intentionally trying to mislead people.

Immediately after Smarty posted:

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What I meant is that voting an inactive isn't a first choice, but rather a way of minimizing damage/maybe getting a benefit if you don't know who to lynch.

It's burning a day because we're not killing anyone that will accomplish anything, versus voting a definitely scummy person. I was explaining why we're not all jumping on the vote fawful train.
Again, an argument against killing an inactive, unless we have nothing else to go on.

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Unread 10-05-2011, 10:11 PM   #914
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I'm inclined to be on RPG's side in this. Something about Sif seems off to me. Still, won't make my vote until tomorrow, so he has time to change my mind if her can. Gotta go to bed for now.
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Unread 10-05-2011, 10:37 PM   #915
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Also Nikose said he claimed that Snake was SK early on. He didn't another lie.
Didn't he claim he said Snake was SK on day 2? Which he did. A lot. He lied and misrepresented what snake said a lot to try to convince us Snake was the SK.
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Unread 10-06-2011, 02:54 AM   #916
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I've been busy, I've only been able to duck onto the PC for relatively short bursts, not long enough to catch up usually, I was gonna post before last night but then well.....

Got up today and all of this happened before I even got online (remember I'm like 12 hours off Americans).


I've got one point to make from a while back to whoever was calling for the Vig (ie Rainbow Dash). The day one text said that Smarty was trying to induct whoever that was. It's possible the vig is anti-town now, so relying on them to act in our best interests is probably not a great idea, it's probably better to treat them as a second SK.
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Unread 10-06-2011, 02:55 AM   #917
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The fact that he targeted Fawful despite the general agreement that offing inactives is bad for the town probably does not bode well.
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Unread 10-06-2011, 03:13 AM   #918
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I've been busy, I've only been able to duck onto the PC for relatively short bursts, not long enough to catch up usually, I was gonna post before last night but then well.....

Got up today and all of this happened before I even got online (remember I'm like 12 hours off Americans).


I've got one point to make from a while back to whoever was calling for the Vig (ie Rainbow Dash). The day one text said that Smarty was trying to induct whoever that was. It's possible the vig is anti-town now, so relying on them to act in our best interests is probably not a great idea, it's probably better to treat them as a second SK.
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Rainbow Dash didn't like this. Rainbow Dash didn't like this one bit. As she flew over the night sky of Ponyville, a roaring laugh from one of the homes caught her ears.

"The Great and Powerful Trixie will not be laughed out of Ponyville this time!" the magical mare chortled to two diminutive colts.

"Yeah! The G. 'n P. T. is great! And, uh, powerful," the taller colt said.

"Snails!" the shortest pony cried, "Stop wasting time! We need to go find Rainbow Dash and bring her to Trixie!"

Far above, Rainbow Dash decided to get a little closer. She descended towards the house, in time to hear Snails reply, "Okay, okay! Just let me lock up, and-"

His sentence was interrupted however, by said cyan pegasus mare crashing through his window at an absurdly high velocity, scattering the belongings of the abode everywhere.

Rainbow Dash bolted from the building before the dust could settle, chastising herself the whole time for her lack of subtlety. "Stupid! Now I'll never figure out what's going on with Snips and Snails! And was that Trixie...?"

Coughing, Snips, Snails, and Trixie sputtered around. Trixie had no idea what had transpired, and neither Snips nor Snails clearly did, either.

"My mom is gonna kill me, eh? I better clean this mess up..." Snails said, dejectedly.

"Well! Snips and I shall head out into Ponyville proper and find Rainbow Dash ourselves!" Trixie commanded. "Let's go!"

"Your wish is my command," Snails replied, bowing.

"Just follow me, and don't speak!" Trixie said as she cantered out of the devestated Haus de Snails.

The duo began to head into the town, when a flash of movement caught Snips's eye by the forest. He quickly trotted towards the edge of the town to investigate. After all, it could have been Rainbow Dash!

Unfortunately for Snips, he was incredibly mistaken. The cockatrice he had disturbed had used its petrifying glare on him, and began turning him to stone. "Trixie! Hel-!" he cried, but it was too late. A Snips statuette was in place by the edge of the forest.

Trixie began to panic and fled the scene. A short while later, she ran into a stately mare.

"Are you lost?" the mare asked.

"No, but my fr-acquaintance Snips has been turned to stone by a cockatrice! Is there anything you can do to help The Great and Powerful Trixie?"

"I cannot do anything, but there is a zebra who lives in the forest who may be able to help your acquaintance. If you'll allow me to escort you, then we might be able to cure the colt."

Trixie never returned to Ponyville. She probably didn't even make it to the zebra.

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You wake up this morning to find that Snips: P-Sleazy, Snails: Bob Dole, and The Great and Powerful Trixie: Smarty McBarrelpants are missing!

It is now Day 2. 18 remaining. 10 to "lynch." Deadline sometime!
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Unread 10-06-2011, 03:20 AM   #919
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I lied, I actually DO have 1 vote override left.

Lynch Override: greed


I should have gone with my gut instinct and offed you the first time. You have until Fenris shows up to prove you're not scum.
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Unread 10-06-2011, 03:26 AM   #920
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Well, Aldurin is clearly playing the in for a penny in for million pounds
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