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Unread 10-08-2011, 04:02 PM   #1061
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The flavor I was given is that since I'm the caretaker of the carousel boutique, I can give any pony I like a makeover that will make them indisposed.

Also, what should we make of the fact that Nik was trying to cover for IHMN?

EDIT: also, I suppose I should vote, huh?

Vote: Nikose Tyris
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Unread 10-08-2011, 04:14 PM   #1062
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The flavor I was given is that since I'm the caretaker of the carousel boutique, I can give any pony I like a makeover that will make them indisposed.

Also, what should we make of the fact that Nik was trying to cover for IHMN?

EDIT: also, I suppose I should vote, huh?

Vote: Nikose Tyris

I'm of the opinion nikose knew he was going to be lynched and thus if he is mafia I would almost certainly presume he was trying to trick us into thinking IHMN is mafia as well.
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Unread 10-08-2011, 04:50 PM   #1063
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I'm still of the opinion that Nikose is overly suspicious and that voting him might not work out that well, but there's a chance I'm wrong, so I'm not going to deter you guys.
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Unread 10-08-2011, 05:25 PM   #1064
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Ok, so does Gregness's roleclaim make sense? Is roleblocking a power that fits Rarity? And is there any reason a mafiate might play this gambit?

In lieu of significant answers to those questions, I'll

Unvote: rpgdemon

Vote: Nikose
Only 1 that I can see; they are fearful that he may indeed be the PO and his investigative powers are a threat to them, even if they are (maybe) broken. This allows them to get town to vote out another power role whilst they kill off someone else tonight. That's the only reason I can see.

Weren't we all worried a little while ago though about Nik being jester and trying to get himself lynched though? I thought we were voting to not vote him off?
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Unread 10-08-2011, 05:53 PM   #1065
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That's a point. Gregness's information can't differentiate between Nikose lying because he's scum, or lying because he's the jester. If Gregness is telling the truth, all we know is that Nikose is, again, lying. Would it still be wise to not lynch him today?
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Unread 10-08-2011, 05:54 PM   #1066
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It's the best lead we have, WE have no proof of the existence of a jester beyond conjecture. Not lynching him on that basis is ridiculous. Plus the Jester usually means a draw with which ever faction wins so it's pretty much a non-issue.
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Unread 10-08-2011, 06:22 PM   #1067
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Yeah to be fair I am more inclined to believe Greg. I haven't seen anything from him that seems scummy, and if he is lying we immediately know he's lying after tonight, or even today if another player comes out and also claims to be Rarity. Though that in itself could be just part of a larger xanatos gambit to get the town to reveal another potential power role if the initial attempt to get Nik lynched fails.

On their own, both roleclaims do have some vailidity, but at least Gregs can be easily checked if he is lying and would benefit scum less overall.

EDIT Also overall all of the characters who've been revealed have been named characters from the show. Niks is the only claim that breaks this mould (well, asside from Sifs Whooves, but I'm still wary of you and he at least is a well established fan character).
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Unread 10-08-2011, 06:28 PM   #1068
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Yeah to be fair I am more inclined to believe Greg. I haven't seen anything from him that seems scummy, and if he is lying we immediately know he's lying after tonight, or even today if another player comes out and also claims to be Rarity. Though that in itself could be just part of a larger xanatos gambit to get the town to reveal another potential power role if the initial attempt to get Nik lynched fails.

On their own, both roleclaims do have some vailidity, but at least Gregs can be easily checked if he is lying and would benefit scum less overall.

Okay, the way I see it there are three possible results to this .

1) Nikose is Mafia AND gregness is Mafia.

2) Nikose Isn't mafia we end up lynching the PO. Vig kills Gregness afterwards.

3) Nikose Is Mafia and Gregness is town.

Personally I'm hoping it's number three but I fear number 1 is a possibility. What isn't stopping me for now is the fact that no one is counter claiming rarity and the lying nikose has done earlier in the thread. So lynch on nikose even before this was justified with the new information it's now warranted as a top priority.
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Unread 10-08-2011, 06:29 PM   #1069
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The Nikose uncertainty is why I was advocating the Vigilante to target him. If he's a Jester, then we've avoided him scuppering the game. If he's normal Scum, it's still a good thing. If he's Town... well, that's not looking likely at this point.
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EDIT Also overall all of the characters who've been revealed have been named characters from the show. Niks is the only claim that breaks this mould (well, asside from Sifs Whooves, but I'm still wary of you and he at least is a well established fan character).
What about IHMN's Derpy thingymabob? Don't know the show myself but is there an actual pony called Derpy?
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