Hatland Mafia - Page 62

BahamutFlare · 11-09-2011, 12:52 PM

Karesh, most all jokes have some truth behind them. I thought it was a joke for D1 and D2, but just the boss line was the part that got me.

I get RO can't be confirmed but wow did this fill up fast. I get the strategy behind it. I get the reasons. We have time. Heck, if Sif and RPG think for sure I am scum and they think that RO could maybe be scum. They should vote for me.

I don't see it being a good mafia tactic to lynch someone when you have leads. Or if this person ends up being mafia, then this guy is mafia too. If this guy is town, then whoops, our bad! I didn't see RO being that scummy the earlier parts of the game.

Why would he role claim the worst job ever? If he was scum and trying to lie, I'd go with the mass amount of self-aligned people. It's seeming like it's safe and easy to blend in then. RO did not come across to me to make such a simple mistake if he was against town.

Vote: RPGdemon

I'd rather go with who I thought was scummy before the role claim rather than worry about a shot of if RO is town or mafia.

Gregness · 11-09-2011, 12:56 PM

So, here's a thought: how about instead of doing the lynch now we actually make use of the time we have left for discussion?

FoS: Aldurin

Everyone pretty much agreed the D1 roleclaim was scummy but we haven't done anything about it yet since we thought we'd get PO info eventually. Now that that seems unlikely this may be a lead we want to follow up on.

FoS: Revolving Ocelot

I honestly haven't thought he was that scummy, but the timing of his roleclaim was a touch... off. Sif applies just a little bit of pressure and all of a sudden you're claiming? Like, Sif's arguments honestly weren't even that good but you still cracked. That said, with no PO there's basically no incentive to claim miller so I dunno.

BahamutFlare · 11-09-2011, 01:02 PM

Greg, if there is no reason, then why would he lie about it? You might as well think he claimed town vanilla. That's why I don't think we should vote for him. And I think most of the mafia is voting for him. It's happened way too quick.

Ravashak · 11-09-2011, 01:10 PM

Unofficial vote count:
Ocelot - 7
Sifright
Smarty
greed
Geminex
Ravashak
Karesh
rpgdemon

Sifright - 1
Ocelot

7 to lynch

(BahamutFlare posted after the lynch, see below)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm

During the Day:

1. 'Days' last a default time of 96 hours. I will periodically remind you of the approaching deadline. 'Days' will never last longer. Even if I'm not present, the 'Day' will end 96 hours after it began, and all votes tabulated or posts made after the 'Day' ends will not count.
2. Deliberately posting after 'Day' ends will get you Replaced or Modkilled. I'll accept a short 'grace' period because sometimes we make mistakes, but votes will never count if cast after the deadline. If you're still posting content long after 'Day' ends, expect consequences.
3. 'Day' may end before the 96 hour period passes. Whenever anyone has more than 50% of existing players on their lynch, day will automatically end early with the lynching of the player. Again, same rules apply here as with the 96 hour deadline; after more than 50% are on a lynch, you're not supposed to talk.

Gregness · 11-09-2011, 01:10 PM

Hence FoS and not Vote. I mean he could be claiming miller to throw off suspicion precisely because there's no incentive to, but that's getting into Battle of Wits territory so whatever.

But yeah, more than anything we need to stop this lynch train. Even if you're 100% SURE of your vote, there's basically no downside to discussing as much as possible now and then you can still lynch later.

**Revising Ocelot** · 11-09-2011, 01:22 PM

So someone badgers me with 'You Didn't Say Who You Are So That Means You're Automatically Scum", I roleclaim in response and that's considered to not be a defense. Huh.

Smarty said himself that there's no reason to delay roleclaiming Miller, so what's the problem with saying it now instead of when I would be under the true spotlight? And since there's no PO, I wouldn't need to mention I'm Miller anyway, as there's nothing to be gained from it besides, y'know, being truthful. So stating the truth gets a large bandwagon going on me. I don't get it.

Since Moogle seems to have been the PO, he commited suicide after investigating Aldurin. I've been thinking that Aldurin must have had some kind of protection to make the investigation fail with deadly results. It implies the Mafia - or someone self-aligned - has some kind of Bodyguard/Roleblockerish type role, who protected Aldurin and effectively made Moogle suicide when he targeted Ald.

Anyway, I'm keeping my vote on Sif for his weird arguments. Gem and Rav notched themselves higher on my suspicion list though, and as for Viridis... well, if he's not been modkilled by now, that means he's sending night roles. Which implicates him massively.

BahamutFlare · 11-09-2011, 01:26 PM

I didn't know we made it that high that quick. I thought we kinda still had time. Sorry. I'm done until Bookworm comes then.

Mr.Bookworm · 11-09-2011, 05:11 PM

As a consensus is reached, the mob readies the rope and looks around.

But the victim is nowhere to be found...

Day 3 over, Night 3 start. 48 hours to send in Night roles.

Mr.Bookworm · 11-11-2011, 08:42 PM

Another night, another few murders.

You find two people lying next to each other in a pool of blood, one holding an ax. The man wearing a gatsby has been rather messily hacked to death. The woman with the ax has a massive hat made out of fruit lying near her, and has been stabbed in the back and the legs several times.

Across the town, you find a woman with a cloche hat lying on top of her face, her hands folded neatly across her chest. She has been shot in the head.

Smarty (stabbed), Viridis (hacked), and Sifright (shot) are all DEAD.

Night 3 over, Day 4 begin. 5 to lynch. ~96 hours left.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 11-11-2011, 09:12 PM

So lets think about Ocelot again:

One, he is either ignorant of facets of his role, was protected by someone else or lied through omission about his roles capabilities. I find the first two unlikely, and the third rather incriminating.

I can't quite make up my mind on it through the flu I've come down with. But I'll say this: By tomorrow I'll have made up my mind on whether it's more likely a mafiate that has a saving grace, or a townie.
FOS: Revolving Ocelot

11-09-2011, 12:56 PM	#612
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	So, here's a thought: how about instead of doing the lynch now we actually make use of the time we have left for discussion? FoS: Aldurin Everyone pretty much agreed the D1 roleclaim was scummy but we haven't done anything about it yet since we thought we'd get PO info eventually. Now that that seems unlikely this may be a lead we want to follow up on. FoS: Revolving Ocelot I honestly haven't thought he was that scummy, but the timing of his roleclaim was a touch... off. Sif applies just a little bit of pressure and all of a sudden you're claiming? Like, Sif's arguments honestly weren't even that good but you still cracked. That said, with no PO there's basically no incentive to claim miller so I dunno. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein

11-09-2011, 01:10 PM	#615
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	Hence FoS and not Vote. I mean he could be claiming miller to throw off suspicion precisely because there's no incentive to, but that's getting into Battle of Wits territory so whatever. But yeah, more than anything we need to stop this lynch train. Even if you're 100% SURE of your vote, there's basically no downside to discussing as much as possible now and then you can still lynch later. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein

11-09-2011, 01:22 PM	#616
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	So someone badgers me with 'You Didn't Say Who You Are So That Means You're Automatically Scum", I roleclaim in response and that's considered to not be a defense. Huh. Smarty said himself that there's no reason to delay roleclaiming Miller, so what's the problem with saying it now instead of when I would be under the true spotlight? And since there's no PO, I wouldn't need to mention I'm Miller anyway, as there's nothing to be gained from it besides, y'know, being truthful. So stating the truth gets a large bandwagon going on me. I don't get it. Since Moogle seems to have been the PO, he commited suicide after investigating Aldurin. I've been thinking that Aldurin must have had some kind of protection to make the investigation fail with deadly results. It implies the Mafia - or someone self-aligned - has some kind of Bodyguard/Roleblockerish type role, who protected Aldurin and effectively made Moogle suicide when he targeted Ald. Anyway, I'm keeping my vote on Sif for his weird arguments. Gem and Rav notched themselves higher on my suspicion list though, and as for Viridis... well, if he's not been modkilled by now, that means he's sending night roles. Which implicates him massively. __________________ magic sucks

11-09-2011, 12:52 PM	#611
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	Karesh, most all jokes have some truth behind them. I thought it was a joke for D1 and D2, but just the boss line was the part that got me. I get RO can't be confirmed but wow did this fill up fast. I get the strategy behind it. I get the reasons. We have time. Heck, if Sif and RPG think for sure I am scum and they think that RO could maybe be scum. They should vote for me. I don't see it being a good mafia tactic to lynch someone when you have leads. Or if this person ends up being mafia, then this guy is mafia too. If this guy is town, then whoops, our bad! I didn't see RO being that scummy the earlier parts of the game. Why would he role claim the worst job ever? If he was scum and trying to lie, I'd go with the mass amount of self-aligned people. It's seeming like it's safe and easy to blend in then. RO did not come across to me to make such a simple mistake if he was against town. Vote: RPGdemon I'd rather go with who I thought was scummy before the role claim rather than worry about a shot of if RO is town or mafia.

11-09-2011, 01:02 PM	#613
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	Greg, if there is no reason, then why would he lie about it? You might as well think he claimed town vanilla. That's why I don't think we should vote for him. And I think most of the mafia is voting for him. It's happened way too quick.

11-09-2011, 01:26 PM	#617
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	I didn't know we made it that high that quick. I thought we kinda still had time. Sorry. I'm done until Bookworm comes then.

11-09-2011, 05:11 PM	#618
Mr.Bookworm YYYEEEEEAAAAAAHHH Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,034	As a consensus is reached, the mob readies the rope and looks around. But the victim is nowhere to be found... Day 3 over, Night 3 start. 48 hours to send in Night roles.

11-11-2011, 08:42 PM	#619
Mr.Bookworm YYYEEEEEAAAAAAHHH Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,034	Another night, another few murders. You find two people lying next to each other in a pool of blood, one holding an ax. The man wearing a gatsby has been rather messily hacked to death. The woman with the ax has a massive hat made out of fruit lying near her, and has been stabbed in the back and the legs several times. Across the town, you find a woman with a cloche hat lying on top of her face, her hands folded neatly across her chest. She has been shot in the head. Smarty (stabbed), Viridis (hacked), and Sifright (shot) are all DEAD. Night 3 over, Day 4 begin. 5 to lynch. ~96 hours left.