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Unread 12-23-2011, 07:32 PM   #61
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Han Solo was a criminal.
Then he became a terrorist.
Is it really terrorism if you fight against an oppressive regime that builds space stations that can murder entire planets in an instant, and will use said weapons as an interrogation technique on the off chance a prisoner is lieing?

Terrorists job is usually to, you know, spread terror. That is the sole purpose of terrorism, hence the name. Fighting a rebellion against an oppresssive military dictatorship is not terrorism.
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Unread 12-23-2011, 07:42 PM   #62
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They would still be considered terrorists.
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By Grand Moff Tarkin, and I don't think we really care what Tarkin thinks.

As for Aladdin, yeah he's a criminal, but he has to eat to live, and in his position, he has to steal to eat. I mean, otherwise they'd get along.
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Like, it is totally great not to judge by outward appearances, or to go for 'commoners' becuase they are virtuous and stuff, but Aladdin is literally a criminal.
"Fuck the police" is a great message for kids movies.
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As for Aladdin, yeah he's a criminal, but he has to eat to live, and in his position, he has to steal to eat. I mean, otherwise they'd get along.
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"Fuck the police" is a great message for kids movies.
If Aladdin was committing acts of protest against the tyrannical rule of the Sultan that would be one thing. But he was basically a thief-turned-con-man.
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Unread 12-23-2011, 09:21 PM   #66
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They would still be considered terrorists.
No, he wouldn't, he'd be considered a common thief, which is exctacly what he is. He makes no excuses for that, and we all know what he is. He didn't even give a shit about the rebellion until he met the princess, how the fuck could he be a terrorist then? Your argument is completely invalid.
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No, he wouldn't, he'd be considered a common thief, which is exctacly what he is. He makes no excuses for that, and we all know what he is. He didn't even give a shit about the rebellion until he met the princess, how the fuck could he be a terrorist then? Your argument is completely invalid.
From our perspective we're fully aware that by the third movie Han Solo is a good guy fighting for the future of the galaxy. The Rebellion is a wholly good organization fighting selflessly to save everyone from a despotic Empire that exerts its will over every damn thing through intimidation, fear and destruction.

You really think that's how the Empire paints the picture to their citizens though?

"BREAKING NEWS: ALDARAAN DESTROYED BY EMPIRE TO PROVE A POINT".
"GOOD WILLED REBEL ALLIANCE WIN GREAT VICTORY FOR FREEDOM BY DESTROYING SPACE STATION, PLANS FOR YOUR EVIL DESPOTIC EMPEROR TO ENACT A COUNTER ATTACK ARE AT WORK."
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Doesn't change the fact that the Empire are still genocidal fucks who are trying to manipulate everyone to their will. Anyone fighting against that is ok by my book, whatever you class them as. It doesn't matter what you refer to your enemies as if you're still evil as fuck.
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Doesn't change the fact that the Empire are still genocidal fucks who are trying to manipulate everyone to their will.
Doesn't change the fact that from the perspective of the Empire and whomever might be under their influence, Han Solo and the entire Rebellion are a terrorist organization.

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That's wholly irrelevant.
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Don't be silly.

All good sons of Empire know that Alderaan shot first.

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