Edgy Comedy and Stand up - Page 2

Marelo · 07-30-2012, 01:54 AM

What I mean to say is that rape isn't a punchline and never should be. However, there can be jokes involving rape, as a concept, that don't paint it in any sort of positive or funny light. In the same way, jokes "about" Republicans on the Daily Show don't celebrate their views and actions, but instead are harshly critical of them.

But I also don't really trust anyone with crafting that kind of joke about that kind of topic and would just as soon have it not occur at all.

Aldurin · 07-30-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

No, rape jokes, much like menstruation jokes, are pretty much never acceptable. Period.

I can never take you seriously ever again.

Bells · 07-30-2012, 01:59 AM

There are comedians doing menstruation jokes? That's... i don't think that works, like... ever. There is not even a slightly dark-angle you can explore to poke fun at... there is nothing to be funny there...

As for CK, he is what a lot of the Big name comedians are... 80% funny and 20% over the line. The thing is that people reach those 20% in different topics and rates, while the 80% is pretty much consistent.

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OH!... i see!

Marelo · 07-30-2012, 02:01 AM

Oh goddamnit.

Amake · 07-30-2012, 02:24 AM

I know a joke that involves both rape and menstruation, though the punchline is incest. There's however no circumstance in this world where I can imagine it would be funny.

Sometimes fun has to take a back seat to humanity. These times may become more and more frequent as humanity and our understanding of and concern for ourselves grow. Us jokesters just have to suck it up and grow up I guess.

Grandmaster_Skweeb · 07-30-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

I can never take you seriously ever again.

Should just go with the flow, bud.

Magus · 07-30-2012, 02:41 PM

See, people, what was the point in bothering to talk about anything other than if rape jokes are acceptable or not? It's the hottest-button issue in comedy, more than religious jokes, racial jokes, and whatever else you throw out there (abortion jokes?)

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much like menstruation jokes, are pretty much never acceptable

You'll have to clarify on this. I'm going to assume you mean menstruation jokes that are not acceptable are the ones where the punchline is "HAHA SHE IS ACTING CRAZY BECAUSE SHE IS MENSTRUATING!" because that's not really a menstruation joke, that is a sexist joke. Whereas if the joke involved like, somebody menstruating all over your white leather sofa, that would be hilarious.

Bells · 07-30-2012, 03:11 PM

Magus... re-read that sentence and don't skip the last part of it.

Solid Snake · 07-30-2012, 04:00 PM

Dammit, is the entire purpose of this thread to make me feel extremely guilty of my appreciation for Louis CK as a comedian?

...Because so far, all this thread is accomplishing is making me feel like a stupid privileged jerk for likin' Louis CK.

('Louie' on FX is actually a phenomenal show for the most part, with a genuinely progressive bent and a lot of attention given to stellar older actresses who tend to otherwise be overlooked in the business, and the young actresses who play Louie's daughters are incredibly talented and Louie's love for them is genuinely affecting, but then you get to the one or two scenes that CK badly botches, and it's just like, fuck, Louis, why are you ruining such a good thing.)

Aerozord · 07-30-2012, 04:08 PM

all edgy comedy crosses the line, or to be more exact someone's line. If it didn't it wouldn't be edgy to begin with. Frankly if we all agree that "x jokes" are ok its not an edgy joke

07-30-2012, 01:59 AM	#13
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	There are comedians doing menstruation jokes? That's... i don't think that works, like... ever. There is not even a slightly dark-angle you can explore to poke fun at... there is nothing to be funny there... As for CK, he is what a lot of the Big name comedians are... 80% funny and 20% over the line. The thing is that people reach those 20% in different topics and rates, while the 80% is pretty much consistent. Edit: ...wait... oh... OH!... i see! __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-30-2012, 02:24 AM	#15
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	I know a joke that involves both rape and menstruation, though the punchline is incest. There's however no circumstance in this world where I can imagine it would be funny. Sometimes fun has to take a back seat to humanity. These times may become more and more frequent as humanity and our understanding of and concern for ourselves grow. Us jokesters just have to suck it up and grow up I guess. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed

07-30-2012, 03:11 PM	#18
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Magus... re-read that sentence and don't skip the last part of it. __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-30-2012, 04:00 PM	#19
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Dammit, is the entire purpose of this thread to make me feel extremely guilty of my appreciation for Louis CK as a comedian? ...Because so far, all this thread is accomplishing is making me feel like a stupid privileged jerk for likin' Louis CK. ('Louie' on FX is actually a phenomenal show for the most part, with a genuinely progressive bent and a lot of attention given to stellar older actresses who tend to otherwise be overlooked in the business, and the young actresses who play Louie's daughters are incredibly talented and Louie's love for them is genuinely affecting, but then you get to the one or two scenes that CK badly botches, and it's just like, fuck, Louis, why are you ruining such a good thing.) __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

07-30-2012, 04:08 PM	#20
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	all edgy comedy crosses the line, or to be more exact someone's line. If it didn't it wouldn't be edgy to begin with. Frankly if we all agree that "x jokes" are ok its not an edgy joke __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

07-30-2012, 01:54 AM	#11
Marelo Napoleon Impersonator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 816	What I mean to say is that rape isn't a punchline and never should be. However, there can be jokes involving rape, as a concept, that don't paint it in any sort of positive or funny light. In the same way, jokes "about" Republicans on the Daily Show don't celebrate their views and actions, but instead are harshly critical of them. But I also don't really trust anyone with crafting that kind of joke about that kind of topic and would just as soon have it not occur at all.

07-30-2012, 02:01 AM	#14
Marelo Napoleon Impersonator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 816	Oh goddamnit.