FUCK REDDIT

Kim · 10-12-2012, 07:18 PM

So, after enabling pedophiles, rapists, violent abusers, and hate communities, Reddit is throwing a tantrum over the fact that an enabler of pedophilia has been outed by Gawker.

You can read the source article here. I'm not going to quote it in full, because it's long as hell, but basically it is a big long thing about who the person is and the Reddit community in general.

Here's a choice quote, however.

Quote:

Under Reddit logic, outing Violentacrez is worse than anonymously posting creepshots of innocent women, because doing so would undermine Reddit's role as a safe place for people to anonymously post creepshots of innocent women.

So yeah, fuck Reddit.

Magus · 10-12-2012, 07:35 PM

Hmm, I hate Gawker Media, too, though...this guy certainly seems like a grade-A freak, though.

I actually know little of Reddit--is it basically 4chan/b but with a falsely sophisticated air about it, what with their interviewing presidents and celebrities?

Kim · 10-12-2012, 08:02 PM

Reddit is a site like 4chan in some respects, mostly with a different layout. It's owned by Cond� Nast Publications, which produces GQ, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Vogue, and other magazines. They pride themselves on "Free Speech", which was their excuse for allowing sub-reddits to exist entirely around pedophilia, racism, rape, abuse, etc, but it's a very special sort of free speech that goes only one way. That free speech where they think they should be allowed to get away with whatever they want, but to use your free speech in the same way is equivalent to a sin of the highest order. The people in charge of the site allow these things to continue and benefit from their continuing, and the people who support and defend Reddit support the people who do this, even unintentionally. As much as I hate Gawker and as right as it is to hate Gawker, Reddit is simply levels beyond levels worse.

**McTahr** · 10-12-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The article

Under Reddit logic, outing Violentacrez is worse than anonymously posting creepshots of innocent women, because doing so would undermine Reddit's role as a safe place for people to anonymously post creepshots of innocent women.

I am OK with that.

Me too. Free speech all you want, in no way is all the creeper/hate/pedo shit in any way defensible.

pochercoaster · 10-12-2012, 08:55 PM

I can't get through that whole article because it's too upsetting... These people make me nauseous.

Subreddits of snapshots of underage girls? What the fuck? Why haven't the police been involved yet?

There are no words...

Loyal · 10-12-2012, 10:01 PM

I've been following these shenanigans since it broke out, but I didn't want to bring it to NPF because it's a huge shitshow that remains ongoing.

I won't say much on the situation itself because every account I've seen given on the subject is delivered with a remarkable bias in support of itself (or is from Gawker), and it's difficult to discern exactly where the truth lies, but I will say Fuck Reddit nonetheless - for a different reason.

Fuck Reddit, for only dealing with problematic subreddits when they are financially or legally compelled to do so, and Fuck Reddit for letting the whole thing get this far in the first place.

pochercoaster · 10-12-2012, 11:18 PM

This guy is really sick. It's obvious from his interview that he knew he was doing something wrong and was uncomfortable with it. In other words he only cares about his actions inasmuch as he suffers consequences, not because he hurts others.

Inasmuch as "troll" is not exactly a nice title, I think it's an overused term that tends to lighten the extent of bullying and violence-supporting behaviour certain people exhibit online. This guy is a pedophilic, rape apologist, racist, abusive, misogynistic shitbag.

**Satan's Onion** · 10-12-2012, 11:37 PM

Ah, good, they actually outed him! When I first heard about this yesterday, it was just that VA had deleted fucking everything under threat of outing. Nice to hear they released his information anyway so everyone can take proper action.

edit: Also, much as I enjoy all the sweet, sweet hypocrite reddit tears about Ar Free Speaches, it will never fail to piss me off that it took this fucking long to do anything about one of the worst people in one of the worst corners of the Internet. Fucksakes, 4chan polices itself better than reddit does.

shiney · 10-13-2012, 09:32 AM

Yeah. I dunno if he'd have been outed to that degree if they didn't block all Gawker links. But, they decided to go balls-in to defend this guy, so there goes a lot of goodwill and reputation for the non-horrifying parts of Reddit.

rpgdemon · 10-13-2012, 12:33 PM

Yeah, I kind of really dislike Reddit. It's a bunch of people acting pseudo-intellectual, who (By merit of the upvote/downvote system maybe?) really become and act as a hive-mind, and it really feels like the entire group has no idea what it even means to be comfortable and confident in one's self, and has to put on this show of, "LOOK AT HOW FREE WE ALL ARE TO BE FREE TO FREE DO FREE STUFF BECAUSE FREE!", because they honestly have no idea otherwise how they can be comfortable being themselves, unless it becomes alright to be ENTIRELY open about really creepy things that really shouldn't be open. And if you're NOT supportive of that, well, what an asshole, because you're really imposing on my freedoms of yadda yadda.

The best description of the opinions that are widely upvoted on Reddit (From what I've seen! I honestly avoid the place as much as possible!) is that they make perfect sense, IF you have no compassion or empathy for your fellow man. They make these arguments that argue on ideological grounds, that seem to make sense if you take them on their face, but COMPLETELY fall apart when you realize what they're saying about all these other people who are just perfectly normal people. They're incredibly hurtful things in many cases (I remember that there was a big trend in this "Good Girl G-NAME-THAT-DOESN'T-MATTER", which was originally just good guy Greg, I guess? But it just turned into people masking incredibly misogynistic comments as a "SO TRUE" meme. Like, I don't remember many of them, but it was stuff like, "Lets you pay for the meal on the first date. Puts out."), and calling it liberated thinking.

10-12-2012, 08:02 PM	#3
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Reddit is a site like 4chan in some respects, mostly with a different layout. It's owned by Cond� Nast Publications, which produces GQ, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Vogue, and other magazines. They pride themselves on "Free Speech", which was their excuse for allowing sub-reddits to exist entirely around pedophilia, racism, rape, abuse, etc, but it's a very special sort of free speech that goes only one way. That free speech where they think they should be allowed to get away with whatever they want, but to use your free speech in the same way is equivalent to a sin of the highest order. The people in charge of the site allow these things to continue and benefit from their continuing, and the people who support and defend Reddit support the people who do this, even unintentionally. As much as I hate Gawker and as right as it is to hate Gawker, Reddit is simply levels beyond levels worse. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

10-12-2012, 11:37 PM	#8
Satan's Onion Swing You Sinners! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 4th Street Posts: 2,666	Ah, good, they actually outed him! When I first heard about this yesterday, it was just that VA had deleted fucking everything under threat of outing. Nice to hear they released his information anyway so everyone can take proper action. edit: Also, much as I enjoy all the sweet, sweet hypocrite reddit tears about Ar Free Speaches, it will never fail to piss me off that it took this fucking long to do anything about one of the worst people in one of the worst corners of the Internet. Fucksakes, 4chan polices itself better than reddit does. __________________ Good evening, ladies. Please enter and be tained .

10-13-2012, 09:32 AM	#9
shiney Derrrrrrrrrrrrrp. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The land of fartz and buttz Posts: 8,266	Yeah. I dunno if he'd have been outed to that degree if they didn't block all Gawker links. But, they decided to go balls-in to defend this guy, so there goes a lot of goodwill and reputation for the non-horrifying parts of Reddit. __________________ boop

10-13-2012, 12:33 PM	#10
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Yeah, I kind of really dislike Reddit. It's a bunch of people acting pseudo-intellectual, who (By merit of the upvote/downvote system maybe?) really become and act as a hive-mind, and it really feels like the entire group has no idea what it even means to be comfortable and confident in one's self, and has to put on this show of, "LOOK AT HOW FREE WE ALL ARE TO BE FREE TO FREE DO FREE STUFF BECAUSE FREE!", because they honestly have no idea otherwise how they can be comfortable being themselves, unless it becomes alright to be ENTIRELY open about really creepy things that really shouldn't be open. And if you're NOT supportive of that, well, what an asshole, because you're really imposing on my freedoms of yadda yadda. The best description of the opinions that are widely upvoted on Reddit (From what I've seen! I honestly avoid the place as much as possible!) is that they make perfect sense, IF you have no compassion or empathy for your fellow man. They make these arguments that argue on ideological grounds, that seem to make sense if you take them on their face, but COMPLETELY fall apart when you realize what they're saying about all these other people who are just perfectly normal people. They're incredibly hurtful things in many cases (I remember that there was a big trend in this "Good Girl G-NAME-THAT-DOESN'T-MATTER", which was originally just good guy Greg, I guess? But it just turned into people masking incredibly misogynistic comments as a "SO TRUE" meme. Like, I don't remember many of them, but it was stuff like, "Lets you pay for the meal on the first date. Puts out."), and calling it liberated thinking. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-12-2012, 07:35 PM	#2
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Hmm, I hate Gawker Media, too, though...this guy certainly seems like a grade-A freak, though. I actually know little of Reddit--is it basically 4chan/b but with a falsely sophisticated air about it, what with their interviewing presidents and celebrities?

10-12-2012, 08:55 PM	#5
pochercoaster rollerpocher tycoon Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,808	I can't get through that whole article because it's too upsetting... These people make me nauseous. Subreddits of snapshots of underage girls? What the fuck? Why haven't the police been involved yet? There are no words...

10-12-2012, 11:18 PM	#7
pochercoaster rollerpocher tycoon Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,808	This guy is really sick. It's obvious from his interview that he knew he was doing something wrong and was uncomfortable with it. In other words he only cares about his actions inasmuch as he suffers consequences, not because he hurts others. Inasmuch as "troll" is not exactly a nice title, I think it's an overused term that tends to lighten the extent of bullying and violence-supporting behaviour certain people exhibit online. This guy is a pedophilic, rape apologist, racist, abusive, misogynistic shitbag.