Legend of Korra; Book two trailer - Page 2

Lumenskir · 07-23-2013, 07:15 PM

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the major issues that resulted in last season's flaws have been addressed and improved upon

This is the more of the persistent faith thing that I was more talking about, since I don't really see how bringing back some of the original writing staff, while still leaving Dimartino and Konietzko in charge, really solves the problems that have been evident since Book 3 of AtLA.

I guess my main concern is that the showrunners love the beginnings of things when they can gush and show off new aspects of the world, but can't really land the winding down aspect, which wouldn't be so bad in and of itself if it was just a soft whiff, but they tend to drag the parts I liked before down in their rush to get to "And they were saved by, oh, let's say Moe."

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It's just always weird to me to see people on the internet get all up in arms that a show couldn't live up to their fantastical expectations.

For me personally, it's always been more like

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Gregness · 07-23-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

This is the more of the persistent faith thing that I was more talking about, since I don't really see how bringing back some of the original writing staff, while still leaving Dimartino and Konietzko in charge, really solves the problems that have been evident since Book 3 of AtLA.

*snip*

I don't get it, were they not in charge before Book 3?

Lumenskir · 07-23-2013, 07:57 PM

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I don't get it, were they not in charge before Book 3?

They've always been in charge. Their problems with endings have only been evident from Book 3 on because Book 3 was when AtLA started to wind down.

Korra's shorter episode orders also hurt extra hard in this respect, because the turnaround from "Ooooh, new!" to "Talking Island From A Time Before Bending/You Get Your Bending Back, You Get Your Bending Back, Every-Body-Gets-Their-Bending-Back!" happens like like whiplash.

POS Industries · 07-23-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

They've always been in charge. Their problems with endings have only been evident from Book 3 on because Book 3 was when AtLA started to wind down.

Korra's shorter episode orders also hurt extra hard in this respect, because the turnaround from "Ooooh, new!" to "Talking Island From A Time Before Bending/You Get Your Bending Back, You Get Your Bending Back, Every-Body-Gets-Their-Bending-Back!" happens like like whiplash.

I see that the last few minutes of a TV show are super important to you.

Lumenskir · 07-23-2013, 08:39 PM

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I see that the last few minutes of a TV show are super important to you.

Close!

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but can't really land the ---->winding down<----- aspect

That's why I say "Book 3" and not "the last five minutes of AtLA", ferinstance.

Gregness · 07-23-2013, 08:44 PM

I thought book 3 was fairly strong outside of the lion-turtle asspull...

POS Industries · 07-23-2013, 08:45 PM

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I thought book 3 was fairly strong outside of the lion-turtle asspull...

Seconding this. It had a couple episodes that weren't amazing, but so did every season.

Lumenskir · 07-23-2013, 08:54 PM

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I thought book 3 was fairly strong outside of the lion-turtle asspull...

I used to attribute my displeasure to a comedown from the gloriousness of Book 2, but I did a rewatch of AtLA with my roomie recently and there was actually a lot I found inherently unsatisfying way before the TIFATBB, both on a macro ("We are on a STRICT deadline to save the world and we will stop for nothing. Nothing, except space sword. Ok, we will only stop for one thing, space sword and Footloose. Ok, we will only stop for two things, space sword, Footloose, and the Painted Lady. Ok ok, we will only stop for three things...") and micro level (in that I felt the characters started to revert to less appealing Book 1 characteristics and the introduction of Zuko to the Gaang never really did anything for me).

Of course, I'm also someone who thinks "The Beach" is a worse episode than "The Great Divide", so fuck me.

Gregness · 07-23-2013, 10:52 PM

"The Great Divide" is the one where they're going through the canyon with the two feuding tribes right? I always thought that one was fairly weak to be honest. It just feels too much paint-by-the-numbers 'OH THE NEATNICKS NEED TO LOOSEN UP' and 'THE SLOBS NEED SOME FORESIGHT' then 'OHOHOHO MAYBE THERE WILL BE A COMPROMISE OF SORTS'. Sokka and Katara fall in line with the side you expect them to and the main 'clever' part of the episode is Aang lying his ass off at the end.

I mean, not that the villains getting Freudian excuses in 'The Beach' is the height of television either, but I can see where someone would be willing to argue for it over 'The Great Divide'.

Aerozord · 07-23-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregness

I thought book 3 was fairly strong outside of the lion-turtle asspull...

part of me wonders how much of this was Nickelodeon going
"guys, you really cant have Aang flat out murder a guy, you just cant."

Especially after reading some of the comics.

I like Korra personally, I mean yea it wasn't as good as Avatar partly because they were kind of in limbo for awhile and were unsure if they'd get a second season. Still better than most shows I've seen in awhile.

Also in my opinion, even the worst episode of Avatar is pretty good. I think the only time I was meh on an episode was The Drill but that was more because they built that episode up so freakin much and it wasn't the strongest episode either. Looking back I still dont hate it. I'd watch them all again given the chance.

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Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	I thought book 3 was fairly strong outside of the lion-turtle asspull... __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein

07-23-2013, 10:52 PM	#19
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	"The Great Divide" is the one where they're going through the canyon with the two feuding tribes right? I always thought that one was fairly weak to be honest. It just feels too much paint-by-the-numbers 'OH THE NEATNICKS NEED TO LOOSEN UP' and 'THE SLOBS NEED SOME FORESIGHT' then 'OHOHOHO MAYBE THERE WILL BE A COMPROMISE OF SORTS'. Sokka and Katara fall in line with the side you expect them to and the main 'clever' part of the episode is Aang lying his ass off at the end. I mean, not that the villains getting Freudian excuses in 'The Beach' is the height of television either, but I can see where someone would be willing to argue for it over 'The Great Divide'. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein