Filler? I don't even know 'er! aka the fuck-Bleach [SPOILERS] megathread! - Page 211

Aerozord · 02-12-2014, 12:18 PM

The are was amazing in this, but yea, what really gets me is being reminded that Rukia will never escape her damsel in distress status.

Bells · 02-12-2014, 01:42 PM

Is it really full out Damsel in Distress? i dunno, in anime (not all, some) there seems to be a variation of it... the best way i can put it is ''female fighter in shonen world'' i mean, she can fight, she can be competent, she may even be kinda cool... but when it comes down to the line, there will always be a guy there to truly beat the evil enemy...

Ryong · 02-12-2014, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_

Hey. Hey The Fear.

Nerves are made of cells.

That page where he went full-on white zombie Jesus was pretty cool, though.

Something tells me this was lost in translation.

"Your mind" kind of thing.

Aerozord · 02-12-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bells

Is it really full out Damsel in Distress? i dunno, in anime (not all, some) there seems to be a variation of it... the best way i can put it is ''female fighter in shonen world'' i mean, she can fight, she can be competent, she may even be kinda cool... but when it comes down to the line, there will always be a guy there to truly beat the evil enemy...

To me thats still the same general trope. More over its how its presented. Lets see if I can explain this well. Its not just that she is being saved its that she is put in these situations to be saved. What makes it Damsel in Distress is because she's a macguffin, an inciting factor for another character to do something. Usually Byakuya

Bells · 02-12-2014, 03:31 PM

Yeah i can see that, it is just because in blaech we have an even more egregious example on Orihime. Where early one she could sorta fight, but she was never proposed to be in the same league as others, so she was third tier with chad which its fine... and she even had an attack ability that was good (but she couldn't use it well). But then they created a fully fledge arc in the story just around her being stripped of any combat ability (mainly a healer) and be put entirely on the Damsel spotlight. I mean, in her case... is flagrant. But with Rukia it always felt a bit more subversive...

Ryong · 02-13-2014, 02:37 PM

Rukia was incredibly weak for a long time.

Orihime is absurdly powerful, but completely against the idea of hurting others and lacking the resolve and courage to actually do the things she can.

At least Rukia is trying.

Aerozord · 02-19-2014, 10:25 AM

Ok that definitely did not go how I was predicting. I may even need to take back what I said. But waiting to make sure this doesn't double back

Bells · 02-19-2014, 11:14 AM

Well... she still kinda needed to be ''recognized'' by Byakuya first... so that's pretty much why i'm always a bit confused on her stand as a character... but yeah, cool moment of awesome at the end there!

Kyanbu The Legend · 02-19-2014, 01:33 PM

Love how Byakuya basically just showed up and went. "Yeah As Nodt, thanks for taking my Bankai. I learned a lot of neat tricks without it. Oh and Rukia stop trolling the bastard and use your Bankai already. I know you have one now, because I can sense how much stronger you've become."

Rukia: *sigh* "Fine I'll stop messing around. BANKAI!"

As Nodt: "FUCK!"

XD

Aerozord · 02-21-2014, 09:12 PM

Reminds me abit of my early Table Top RPG days. In my group we played Exalted and any time you rolled far more successes than dice, like around double, we'd call it a bankai roll since as a rule it meant you just curb stomped the guy.

Obviously we started playing around the time bankai was introduced and it was basically the "I win" move.

02-12-2014, 12:18 PM	#2101
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	The are was amazing in this, but yea, what really gets me is being reminded that Rukia will never escape her damsel in distress status. __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

02-12-2014, 01:42 PM	#2102
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Is it really full out Damsel in Distress? i dunno, in anime (not all, some) there seems to be a variation of it... the best way i can put it is ''female fighter in shonen world'' i mean, she can fight, she can be competent, she may even be kinda cool... but when it comes down to the line, there will always be a guy there to truly beat the evil enemy... __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

02-12-2014, 03:31 PM	#2105
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Yeah i can see that, it is just because in blaech we have an even more egregious example on Orihime. Where early one she could sorta fight, but she was never proposed to be in the same league as others, so she was third tier with chad which its fine... and she even had an attack ability that was good (but she couldn't use it well). But then they created a fully fledge arc in the story just around her being stripped of any combat ability (mainly a healer) and be put entirely on the Damsel spotlight. I mean, in her case... is flagrant. But with Rukia it always felt a bit more subversive... __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

02-19-2014, 10:25 AM	#2107
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Ok that definitely did not go how I was predicting. I may even need to take back what I said. But waiting to make sure this doesn't double back __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

02-19-2014, 11:14 AM	#2108
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Well... she still kinda needed to be ''recognized'' by Byakuya first... so that's pretty much why i'm always a bit confused on her stand as a character... but yeah, cool moment of awesome at the end there! __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

02-13-2014, 02:37 PM	#2106
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Rukia was incredibly weak for a long time. Orihime is absurdly powerful, but completely against the idea of hurting others and lacking the resolve and courage to actually do the things she can. At least Rukia is trying.

02-19-2014, 01:33 PM	#2109
Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	Love how Byakuya basically just showed up and went. "Yeah As Nodt, thanks for taking my Bankai. I learned a lot of neat tricks without it. Oh and Rukia stop trolling the bastard and use your Bankai already. I know you have one now, because I can sense how much stronger you've become." Rukia: sigh "Fine I'll stop messing around. BANKAI!" As Nodt: "FUCK!" XD __________________ Last edited by Kyanbu The Legend; 02-19-2014 at 01:36 PM.

02-21-2014, 09:12 PM	#2110
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Reminds me abit of my early Table Top RPG days. In my group we played Exalted and any time you rolled far more successes than dice, like around double, we'd call it a bankai roll since as a rule it meant you just curb stomped the guy. Obviously we started playing around the time bankai was introduced and it was basically the "I win" move. __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."