GamerGate? Da fuq is a GamerGate?

[Kim]

I don't think coaching 4chan on how to harass your ex-girlfriend for months and even how to try and get away with it falls under the qualifications of "reacting badly".

And regardless, whether or not Zoe did, I think it's pretty clear GamerGate has accomplished nothing along these lines and doesn't really have an interest in the abuse besides as another avenue to attack someone they already hated.

EDIT: Also worth clarifying is that my experience is abusive people trying to recharacterize their victims as the abusers and so when I know someone is abusive, as Eron clearly, clearly is, I don't trust him cuz I've seen how abusive people try to frame these things.

[pochercoaster]

I don't think coaching 4chan on how to harass your ex-girlfriend for months and even how to try and get away with it falls under the qualifications of "reacting badly".

Seriously, who actually does that? How does that in any way even vaguely resemble a sane response? How is that categorized as anything other than revenge?

[Kim]

Originally Posted by pochercoaster

Seriously, who actually does that? How does that in any way even vaguely resemble a sane response? How is that categorized as anything other than revenge?

Yeah, like, I've seen how people I've known for a fact had been abused went about calling their abusers out, and I've seen abusive people try to frame their victims as abusive, and this resembles more the latter than the former.

[pochercoaster]

I'm just gonna quote my husband from an email exchange we had last week about the whole situation because he's more eloquent than me:

they are an inevitable byproduct of progress unfortunately. They live in a world wherein progress has afforded them the great technological advantages necessary to broadcast there views to a large audience, but have not benefited from the social progress that has given women more agency. Unfortunately they weren't smart enough to catch on to the changing times and still operate under outdated assumptions of gender roles while they continue to live in a society wherein such constructs are increasingly meaningless. The inherent contradiction of their worldview and their world makes them highly agitated and stressed, while their lack of intellectual coping skills makes this state of affairs practically chronic.Maybe some sort of naturally occurring selection process will weed them out over the next few decades as more women become aware that they don't have to put up with this shit, and less men continue to act like these people so as not to be completely pushed out of the dating pool.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by Red Mage Black

People were only pissed off at first because she was suppose to be in a committed relationship, cheated on her boyfriend and lied about her own morals. It wasn't the fact she had sex at all, but the fact she's a sociopathic hypocrite.

This has nothing at all to do with gaming, and is absolutely nobody else business but the parties involved, and dragging it all out into the internet and coaching a known hate group, that already harassed her and others, into using it as further fuel to target her is indefensible, and anyone who supports that is human garbage.

The participants and perpetrators of this movement and their actions are -at best- completely ignorant of the movement's anti-women agenda and at worst fucking -proud- of being a hate group with the intention of forcing women from gaming and hassling anyone that disagrees.

It is nothing but up-jumped misogynists and the unfortunate people who actually bought their lies that they were about combating 'corruption'. Which is all very surprising, considering the people they continue to target with their hate group speech can often times barely scrape together money for rent, much less throw a multi-million dollar press-only release party, or strong arm review sites or youtube review networks into towing their lines with threats of blacklisting.

Hope this helps

[pochercoaster]

like being a woman in indie games is so fabulous guys i need to get on this "benefitting from journalistioc corruption" shit i heard they gave zoe quinn a pony and like a wheelbarrow full of money and chocolate and rainbows, which upon fuirther contemplation rightfully belongs to all the male gamers shivering outside in the cold like orphans in a charles dickens novel

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Zoe's story as far as it relates to gaming journalism is essentially speaking the smallest of the small, and she has definitely seen an incredible overreaction, born from active or passive misogynistic tendencies.
Phil Fish is a bigger story. AAA developers directly bribing or extorting is a bigger story. These should be the issues Gamers who actually want their industry to be honest with them should be talking about, but they're not. Exactly because Zoe Quinn is a woman.

Originally Posted by Kim

Yeah, like, I've seen how people I've known for a fact had been abused went about calling their abusers out, and I've seen abusive people try to frame their victims as abusive, and this resembles more the latter than the former.

If it is something that can be linked to I'd like to see where he's been coaching, since that is obviously suspect behavior for an abused person.

[POS Industries]

I'm kind of impressed by how shockingly tolerable /v/ has become ever since moot kicked GG discussion off of 4chan. Unsurprisingly, the very same people who were making the place unbearable for years happened to be the ones swept up in this nonsense, and making them fuck off to their own imageboard has made it possible to actually talk about video games again.

Says a lot when the people who've dedicated years to making it impossible to discuss or even enjoy video games are the ones primarily behind a movement that claims to be saving video games from people who want to talk about and enjoy them.

Originally Posted by Arhra

On the corruption front, there is that e-mail dump?

http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/09/19/g...nn-email-dump/

Not really seeing evidence of corruption here. Seems like it's entirely just a discussion of whether or not someone's personal relationship drama is news (it's not) and then some people expressing their personal opinions on the matter. Despite what Milo says, journalists interacting with one another isn't corruption, and even if it were I'm pretty damn sure he'd be super guilty of it himself.

[Ryong]

*ahem*

Originally Posted by Ryong

I like this one.

Originally Posted by Ryong

There are people on both sides who want to reach a consensus, who want to discuss these things but, more often than not, when they look at their group they see a lot of hate and if they try and talk with the other side they get the extremists, so a lot of these go silent.

Also this.

[pochercoaster]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

I'm kind of impressed by how shockingly tolerable /v/ has become ever since moot kicked GG discussion off of 4chan. Unsurprisingly, the very same people who were making the place unbearable for years happened to be the ones swept up in this nonsense, and making them fuck off to their own imageboard has made it possible to actually talk about video games again.

okay but i thought gaming was actually about people's private sex lives, or did i get in the wrong line here