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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:08 PM   #41
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The most grievous of crimes: Creating a thread about yuri.
Yeah because this is the only thread that an argument has broken out in.

But whatever, who cares, this thread has devolved into petty insults.

I apologize if my questions played a part in the destruction of this thread, that was not my intention. Might be best just to start a new thread.

Have some music to lighten the mood as you exit the thread.
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:13 PM   #42
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Yeah because this is the only thread that an argument has broken out in.

But whatever, who cares, this thread has devolved into petty insults.

I apologize if my questions played a part in the destruction of this thread, that was not my intention. Might be best just to start a new thread.

Have some music to lighten the mood as you exit the thread.
What boggles my mind is that this is a thread in which Kim is addressing me personally, and probably just choosing NPF as the forum to do so because it's the easiest place for her to reach me. Why try that discussion here if your goal wasn't only and exclusively to antagonize her?
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:17 PM   #43
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What boggles my mind is that this is a thread in which Kim is addressing me personally, and probably just choosing NPF as the forum to do so because it's the easiest place for her to do so. Why try that discussion here if your goal wasn't only and exclusively to antagonize her?
Because it was an open post in an open forum so I assumed it was meant for open discussion, and my questions were related to the topic at hand and in no way directed at Kim personally. If it was meant to be a private affair, there are a multitude of ways to do so, including PMs on this very site.

I made my intentions clear in my first post. Is there a reason you're choosing to ignore them and trying to make me look like I'm trying to attack Kim?
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:18 PM   #44
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Fun Fact: I only made a thread cuz it's hard to know when Snake will be in chat and his private messages were full.
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:23 PM   #45
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Because it was an open post in an open forum so I assumed it was meant for open discussion, and my questions were related to the topic at hand and in no way directed at Kim personally. If it was meant to be a private affair, there are a multitude of ways to do so, including PMs on this very site.

I made my intentions clear in my first post. Is there a reason you're choosing to ignore them and trying to make me look like I'm trying to attack Kim?
Could be wrong but I read that as a continuation of response to the idea that Ryong was solely in it to start shit with Kim, not particularly that you had done so as well.
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:27 PM   #46
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Because it was an open post in an open forum so I assumed it was meant for open discussion, and my questions were related to the topic at hand and in no way directed at Kim personally. If it was meant to be a private affair, there are a multitude of ways to do so, including PMs on this very site.

I made my intentions clear in my first post. Is there a reason you're choosing to ignore them and trying to make me look like I'm trying to attack Kim?
I answered your question earlier in the thread in that fanservice is inherently fine when done well and not forced. And I understand what you were trying to get at. The show is marketed towards lesbians and Yuri fans, that much is made clear by the creators. But like any other show it will attract other audiences too. So some heterosexual and bisexual males and females are likely going to check it out too. Nothing really wrong with gaining attention within and outside of the target audience though. The extra ratings could work to the show's advantage and can be a nice sign of acceptance.
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Unread 01-01-2015, 04:45 PM   #47
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Closing for now.

In the meantime: Ryong, why did you come into this thread with the clear intent to do nothing but start a shit storm?

Everyone else: Kyanbu was the best poster in this thread.
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Unread 01-01-2015, 08:57 PM   #48
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Unread 01-02-2015, 05:43 PM   #49
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Guild Wars 2 has had a lesbian couple that has had basically no fanservice whatsoever - unless you count their heartfelt first kiss which happened in a cutscene after the defeat of a major villain who had nearly killed one of them as fanservice, somehow - and has consistently been the best example of a working, real relationship that the game has.
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...But I guess it's not okay because, as far as I know, no lesbians were involved.
This part because it directly violates this part of the rules:

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im getting the distinct impression that you're projecting some shit onto me that i didn't actually say and i'd advise you to not do that
This is Kim pointing out that you are violating this part of the rules and is actually politely asking you to back off.

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And I'm getting the distinct impression that what you consider as worthwhile and respectful is arbitrary.

That if these drawings were made by anyone else you'd be outraged at how they're aimed at heterosexual males as a power fantasy, but this one is okay because it's a author you like and he got input from a lesbian.
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Both of these posts violate this part of the rules - Kim's less so, esp. given the history of Ryong fairly consistently being belligerent towards Kim.

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Okay, fuck, I'm done.

I've had it with this defense force.

Kim, I've literally nothing against your sexual orientation or the like, but I've everything against you trying your goddamn best every single day to be the ultimate special snowflake, who doesn't want to be regarded as a "sexual deviant", despite working as a camwhore, worshipping a sex goddess, telling everyone nonstop about your fetishes and how you're a pet to a couple and so on. I saw you transition from a dude who wasn't sure of his sexuality to a gay dude to a transgendered lady and, while the discussions here have honestly helped me be a better person, I felt betrayed by an increasingly worse zealotry that pretty quickly reduced itself to "either you agree completely with me and fight for my cause with as much vehemence as me or you're scum". I've said this before to Snake and it also applies to you and hasn't stopped applying to him in the meantime. I genuinely considered you a friend, but at some point your hypocrisy and fervor was too much for me to handle.
3 strikes, you're out.

THAT ALL SAID Kim you could have avoided a whole bunch of this by including in the OP why you opted to make a thread instead of PMing him or whatevs.

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Fun Fact: I only made a thread cuz it's hard to know when Snake will be in chat and his private messages were full.
Like this post probably should have been said at the beginning? It looks like you were intending this thread to be more of a personal discussion and less of a public one?

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And Mods if you dare throw some temper tantrum at ME for daring to publicly display how insulted I am that someone typed that shit about my
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As an aside, get over yourself, dude. The only person in this thread who was actually shat on without doing anything in this thread beforehand was RMB and considering where this turned he's been remarkably civil as well.

TL;DR, Ryong came into the thread to antagonize, so he's banned for 2 months. RMB, you're not banned (because you didn't cross any lines in this discussion) but I might suggest looking elsewhere for your online gatherings for your own happiness.

Kim, Marc, Snake, etc., I'm gonna say the thing you hate and tell you to be nicer because while you were pretty heavily baited into this big 'ol ball of bullshit, you still went and made the ball a whole lot shittier.
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