God Bless You, Bill Cosby - Page 2

Martyr · 06-07-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

Hey I'm black and proud. 1/2 black but still
No I'm not going to be the black guy who blames everything on "whitey." Its not the fault of "the man" that some black people are the way they are. In some cases the racist allegations are true, but that doesn't mean everytime something goes wrong minorities can blame "whitey." If anything in today's society blacks are becoming the racist (in my community at least). If a black guy goes out with a girl that happens to be white all of a sudden he's going out with that "white skank". And if a guy who happens to be white starts listening to hippety-hoppity or slurring their speach he's "acting black."

On a side note I'm extremely smart (smarter then all the "whiteys" at my school, [I'm in a magnet school]) i'm not poor, I don't buy $500 shoes, If anything I am the Computer Geek, not the hippety hoppity black guy.

the point is you can't blame things on race, only yourself, unles you happen to be in the pressence of an actual racist, but that's gotta be what 20% of any claims based on race. You can only blame yourself, and in some cases your upbringing.

Do they call you a traitorous black gone white?
Where I come from, that's what happens to all the black people who break the mold and go for that lifestyle where pants wrap around the waist and average GPA scores exceed 1.9.
Or are you just "ghetto fabulous."

Edit: I'm deleting all that crap. I don't even think it properly represents my side. Mixed up words, for sure. I'll get into a fight that I don't even understand why I'm in if I leave that stuff there...

h4x.m4g3 · 06-08-2004, 12:06 AM

Not really I just don't hang around them. Don't get me wrong I don't avoid black people, but let's just say I have more white friends then black friends. Rae doesn't matter to me just personality, and I can't stand their "black personality."

Lycanthrope · 06-08-2004, 12:38 AM

Its the same deal here. I'm white. I have black friends, but just can't stand people being loud and "ghetto." And it isn't even that all of my black friends are complete conformist "oreos," they just people I can have an intellegent conversation with. Same goes for white people to, and latinos, and anything else. Its not about race, its about intellegence, and it often saddens me that so many minorities dumb themselves down by buying into stereotypes.

Fifthfiend · 06-08-2004, 01:14 AM

Mostly it just reads like the standard Old Man Rant. "Damn kids today and their clothes being too baggy/too tight/ of ideal tightness/looseness but in the wrong color. When I was their age we had respect for our parents/spoke proper english/worked harder for less money/walked a suitably long-sounding distance to school. When are these kids going to stop arguing with their elders/enjoying sex/going around being all young?"

He's black, so he's bitching about black kids, seems like about the only difference to me.

Martyr · 06-08-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Mostly it just reads like the standard Old Man Rant. "Damn kids today and their clothes being too baggy/too tight/ of ideal tightness/looseness but in the wrong color. When I was their age we had respect for our parents/spoke proper english/worked harder for less money/walked a suitably long-sounding distance to school. When are these kids going to stop arguing with their elders/enjoying sex/going around being all young?"

He's black, so he's bitching about black kids, seems like about the only difference to me.

Yea, but... Why are people 70 years younger than 80 having the same complaints?

Jagos · 06-08-2004, 10:57 AM

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i'm not poor, I don't buy $500 shoes, If anything I am the Computer Geek, not the hippety hoppity black guy.

Don't confuse common sense with stupidity. All those shoes cost about $20 bucks to make. The main thing you're "buying" is not only an image but for some kids in China or elsewhere to have it made and shipped to the US.

And I know that not all blacks, whites, Asians, nor any other race is filled with every last person that falls into a category.

Still, I'm kinda glad to see that there's other people that don't fall into traps that plague so many. No matter the skin color.

cellar_door · 06-08-2004, 11:35 AM

just out of interest, how do you think this would have been recieved if it was robin williams saying it?

i mean its all good and common sence stuff, but do you think it would be swamped down by the racist thing? or would people see it for what it really is?

Omega Mage Zero · 06-08-2004, 11:50 AM

It's great that Cosby said this, but it's not a new thing for a black man to say. Check out a guy called Thomas Sewell.

On a personal note, I'd like to say that I work in a elementary school. It's about 50% black, 40% some odd white, with a few Latino and Asian children thrown in. And there are some deep problems in African-American culture and families. An even bigger problem is that everyone,black and white, is scared to call them on it. This may be changing now. The Latinos(or hispanics, whatever is appropriate) are the largest minority now. When they surpass blacks(and they will) perhaps the African-American "community" will run out of excuses. Why will the Latinos succeed? Strong families and a good work ethic. It's really as simple as that.

h4x.m4g3 · 06-08-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JC123

Don't confuse common sense with stupidity. All those shoes cost about $20 bucks to make. The main thing you're "buying" is not only an image but for some kids in China or elsewhere to have it made and shipped to the US.

I was trying to say I prefer my $20 Walmart shoes and a good computer over an pentium two and these OM!FG!!! it has some company's symbol on the side of it shoes for only ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!

Martyr · 06-08-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

I was trying to say I prefer my $20 Walmart shoes and a good computer over an pentium two and these OM!FG!!! it has some company's symbol on the side of it shoes for only ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!

Not to mention, it's a combination of orange, red, and blue colors, and it's made of styrofoam.

You know what kicks ass? Those shoes are so popular, that I can get more durable, nicer looking shoes now for a much lower price. I got some nice shoes the other day for only $20.00. Stuff that cost me $45.00 a few years ago.

06-08-2004, 12:38 AM	#13
Lycanthrope Deus Lupus Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The City of Angels Posts: 2,925	Its the same deal here. I'm white. I have black friends, but just can't stand people being loud and "ghetto." And it isn't even that all of my black friends are complete conformist "oreos," they just people I can have an intellegent conversation with. Same goes for white people to, and latinos, and anything else. Its not about race, its about intellegence, and it often saddens me that so many minorities dumb themselves down by buying into stereotypes. __________________ "With these seven easy steps, you, too, can be the authoritarian despot of your own principality. Machiavelli, your road to happiness" "I shoot Flying Monkies!" "Christmas had it coming its what it gets for taking over thanksgiving and threatening halloween with its weapons of mass consumerism" "Death to All Fanatics!" Official RP Action God Lycanthropic Poem "FOR YOU THE CAKE IS OVER. YOU HAVE REACHED THE END OF CAKE." -Death Krylo and BMG are apparently my bitches.

06-08-2004, 01:14 AM	#14
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Mostly it just reads like the standard Old Man Rant. "Damn kids today and their clothes being too baggy/too tight/ of ideal tightness/looseness but in the wrong color. When I was their age we had respect for our parents/spoke proper english/worked harder for less money/walked a suitably long-sounding distance to school. When are these kids going to stop arguing with their elders/enjoying sex/going around being all young?" He's black, so he's bitching about black kids, seems like about the only difference to me. __________________ check out my buttspresso Last edited by Fifthfiend; 06-08-2004 at 01:19 AM.

06-08-2004, 11:35 AM	#17
cellar_door wishes he was bob dylan Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 85	just out of interest, how do you think this would have been recieved if it was robin williams saying it? i mean its all good and common sence stuff, but do you think it would be swamped down by the racist thing? or would people see it for what it really is? __________________ theres beauty in everything its up to you to look hard enough cellar door Last edited by cellar_door; 06-08-2004 at 11:37 AM. Reason: to clarify

06-08-2004, 12:06 AM	#12
h4x.m4g3 Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,152	Not really I just don't hang around them. Don't get me wrong I don't avoid black people, but let's just say I have more white friends then black friends. Rae doesn't matter to me just personality, and I can't stand their "black personality."

06-08-2004, 11:50 AM	#18
Omega Mage Zero Troopa Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 53	It's great that Cosby said this, but it's not a new thing for a black man to say. Check out a guy called Thomas Sewell. On a personal note, I'd like to say that I work in a elementary school. It's about 50% black, 40% some odd white, with a few Latino and Asian children thrown in. And there are some deep problems in African-American culture and families. An even bigger problem is that everyone,black and white, is scared to call them on it. This may be changing now. The Latinos(or hispanics, whatever is appropriate) are the largest minority now. When they surpass blacks(and they will) perhaps the African-American "community" will run out of excuses. Why will the Latinos succeed? Strong families and a good work ethic. It's really as simple as that.