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Unread 06-11-2004, 08:07 AM   #11
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I point you here, Read This, for a not so quick but interesting read. No after reading that you will be quite a bit more scared of that movie. I read that before I saw the movie and watching it with that in mind made it so much better.

On another note I think the climate shift would end up making Africa much more green as well as Mexico. If this happens the world may very well still be able to support a pretty large population. There wouldn't be much space but since when have humans let that stop us.
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Unread 06-11-2004, 09:34 AM   #12
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I allready knew that it's bound to happen. We can't be sure when or how much time it will take, but most likely it will be our grand children or their children who suffer. Or maby it will happen later, or maby even earlier. But the thing is as they said that it will start and the real change will take years. That scientist said, I believe, 10-20years minimum, but thats not a lot.
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Unread 06-11-2004, 12:11 PM   #13
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the movie is based on a lot of bad science. like the fact they say that the number of tornados per year are increasing, when its only our ability to measure weaker tornados thats increasing. or the fact that there is no real scientific evidence of global warming, many say the avg temp of the earth was higher in the middle ages.

Here's a good article from the washington post from a month or two ago.
Here's another from the Environmental News Network. Even the Natural Resources Defense Council calls the movie "over the top"

Remember this is hollywood, its fantasy, not reality.
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Hollywood has never been known to let scientific fact get in the way of a good story, and recent releases provide plenty examples in which a filmmaker will rely on technical fudgery so as not to bore an audience. In Godsend, for instance, the parents of an eight-year-old car accident victim employ some technologically dicey methods to clone their son after his death. Last month’s Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, in which Jim Carrey plays a man who erases all memory of his ex-girlfriend from his brain, intentionally glosses over the neurological aspects of such a procedure, preserving a sense of possibility without the burden of scientific realism. It should come as no surprise, then, that Fox’s upcoming The Day After Tomorrow might not offer an entirely accurate portrayal of global warming.
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Unread 06-11-2004, 12:26 PM   #14
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Hmm I really don't want to grow fur. If anything I'd actually burrow deep into the earth towards the center for warmth. But I actually do like the cold. I think I'd survive.
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Unread 06-12-2004, 09:23 AM   #15
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one thing is for sure, "We cannot have a mineshaft gap!" </movie reference>
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Unread 06-12-2004, 11:17 AM   #16
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If we ever run into another ice age, it's not going to be something that happens over night. We're not going to wake up one day, and suddenly find the world to be completely frozen over. Something like that takes an unfathomably large number of years.

However, and I haven't seen that particular movie yet, but if something like this were to happen, and we were suddenly overtaken by a new, worldwide ice age, we would probably put on thick coats. We were thriving in absurdly cold climates before the advent of central heating, so I'm fairly certain we could do it now. Unless it's getting cold enough to crystalize our blood or something, we won't have much of a problem on that end. The real problem would be keeping our food alive. We would eventually start farming and such in self contained environments, probably heavily regulated by the government, but the sudden climate change would probably kill a lot of what we already had, so there might be some starvation in the beginning, just until things evened out though.

For a climate change to kill us all off is pretty much unthinkable. It would have to be sudden, and it would have to be really really really extreme, like turning the air into acid as was suggested by Red Mage.

A few months ago I was standing outside in -50 C for about an hour waiting for someone to come boost my car. That's roughly -58 farenheit, so -30 would have been a pretty big improvement over that, and I survived the night, as did the rest of my city.

To even begin affecting humanity as a whole, a climate change would have to be monumental. I'm talking about 50-100 degrees celcius below the lowest it gets to now. Unless someone teleports the Earth away from, or puts a big wall in front of the sun, that won't happen.
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Unread 06-12-2004, 06:13 PM   #17
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Here's the plot. In the middle of a Northern Hemisphere summer, the temperature of the high-latitude Atlantic and Pacific suddenly drops 15 degrees. This is caused by the shutdown of the Gulf Stream, which keeps Europe from being the icebox it should be at its northerly latitude.

Since the Gulf Stream is no longer transporting warm water to Europe, the tropics get hotter and hotter, and the poles colder and colder. In a series of massive thunderstorms, the atmosphere flips over, and increasingly cold stratospheric air is drawn down to the earth's surface, creating a low-pressure system that produces hundreds of feet of snow. Temperatures in Canada drop 100 degrees in an hour. Just about everyone north of Washington, D.C., dies. The following summer, the ice melts and a continental flood ensues.
That's complete bullshit. Even if the Gulf Stream DID shut down, The law of entropy would just take over. Instead of the above crap happening, the heat from the tropics would slowly spread out to the rest of the world, instead of being warped up to you Euros. It's like saying just because you have a heater in the living room, that the rest of the house will get colder.

And besides, it's a fucking APOCALYPSE MOVIE!!! That's like thinking that "Armageddon" will happen. Aside from the fact that a comet/meteor/asteriod has an infinitesmal chance of hitting the earth, people got all freaked out. Same with every other movie that "realistically" depicts the end of the world. Just goes to shoe you how dumb people are.
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Unread 06-12-2004, 06:15 PM   #18
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Plus, like Dennis Quaid said in the movie, we've survived an Ice Age as a race before, and thats when our greatest technological acheivement was a wooden club and wearing fur...or something, I'm not a big historian.

Too bad Japan gets killed...

And remember, this is the movie Bush doesn't want you to see.
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Unread 06-12-2004, 08:20 PM   #19
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Aside from the premise, the Day After Tomorrow is total crap. Cold air being pulled down from the stratosphere? CGI Timber wolves? North Atlantic current ceases to exist? Three massive "superstorms" neatly placed so they cover the whole world? Tornadoes in LA? TOTAL CRAP!

That doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about the planet. But there's no way you can stop the apocalypse now. The world is going down down down down...
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despite the horrible premise and worse scientific backing, I liked the movie. not so much for what it was, but for the ideas it gave me. I myself would love to witness a global catastrophe, something so earth shattering that it would destroy society as we know it. I would love to see a return to feudalism, and conquest. the world is so impersonal and boring these days, you want somebody dead? send a tomahawk his way! I think it would be cool to be some sort of post apocalyptic warlord, finding ancient technological artifacts and using them to bring peace and order to the ignorant populace. The imagery of two great armies composed entirely of infantry armed with primitive weapons fighting eachother while a dilapidated black hawk helicopter thunders overhead carrying elite troops armed with automatic weaponry is very visually appealing to me. Then again, maybe I'm just crazy...
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