Episode 175: So, aren't they still poisoned?

01-01-2004, 03:02 PM

This has been bothering me(slightly) for a while, and even though it could be a future plot device... Or did I miss something, and they found a cure? I'm sure the answer is out there. Thanks, Adam

dragonglove · 01-01-2004, 03:50 PM

I did some research and as far as I can tell it doesn't directly say that they got their nightmare disease (poison) cured. However, episode 311 does say they completed their quest and they get the gold for it. I would naturally assume that the poison was cured during that time.

01-01-2004, 04:11 PM

hmm, yeah it does look implied that they were healed. Thanks for the help on that, my dialup really isn't up to the task of going through all the episodes. I think thats too bad, that would've been an interesting plot loop hole to exploit later on.

Sky Warrior Bob · 01-01-2004, 04:18 PM

Okay, in this comic, Matoya asks if they brought her, the crystal she wanted. As you recall from this comic, Matoya stated that not only would she give them the antidote to the poison, but 200 Gil each.

Then later on in this comic we see the Light Warriors woo-hooing about the money they just got.

But we do *NOT* see the transaction of the money. Neither do we see our heros complain about having any more nightmares.

So, the logical assumtion is that between 308 & 311, while we're having an interlude with the Dark Warriors, Matoya might just have given the Light Warriors the antidote to the poison.

Sometimes we need to make assumptions. I personally assume that the blaze in Corneria has run its course, and the city has been re-built. I can't know that for certain, but without endless fuel, the flame can't can continued indefinitely, and there has to be at least a few survivors, or King Steve wouldn't have anyone to be King over.

Sky Warrior Bob

Stabbitty Death · 01-02-2004, 12:52 AM

Didn't Matoya say that the cookies diluted most of the poison in the first place? So when they digested the cookies, wouldn't the poison have no effect? I don't know if that answers your question, but maybe it helps.

Sky Warrior Bob · 01-02-2004, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stabbitty_Death

Didn't Matoya say that the cookies diluted most of the poison in the first place?

No, she didn't. The closest thing she said was, due to her blindness, that she didn't know which poison she gave the Light Warriors. All she knew was it was non-lethal, and wouldn't be cured until she dealt with it.

Admittedly, Brian did show us less in the way of Nightmares as the story progressed, but that can be written off as a part of storytelling, as Brian didn't think we needed to be constantly reminded of the problems associated with the poison.

Pie Warrior Bib

MY2K · 01-03-2004, 07:36 PM

my god. you're RIGHT. they never directly got the cure. I'll bet they forgot about it completely.

who knows. perhaps. damn it the suspense is killing me >.<

Flarecobra · 01-03-2004, 09:53 PM

Then again, we haven't seen a night scene since they left her cave, so they could still be poisoned, but they just gotten used to it by now. So unless we see a scene involving Matoya, or we get one at night, it's all conjecture.

And "Pie Warrior Bib?"

01-05-2004, 02:15 AM

Ah, the mark of a good comic.

Always able to gloss over a detail or a loose-end that we can ignore, and then come back to it with a slew of new arcs incase our interest needs to be re-hooked.

-=PakoPako=-

Kurosen · 01-05-2004, 04:00 AM

No, (one of) the mark of a good comic is knowing that you don't have to show every single little event :P

It is heavily implied that the antidote was given during the interlude. The Light Warriors showed evidence of suffering from the poison; they were in a situation where the antidote was about to be given to them; time passed during a scene that took place elsewhere; when next we see the Light Warriors there is no evidence of the poison holding any sway over them. It does not take an incredible leap of logic to assume that the antidote was delivered in the meantime.

So there!

01-01-2004, 03:02 PM	#1
adamantairman Guest Posts: n/a	Episode 175: So, aren't they still poisoned? This has been bothering me(slightly) for a while, and even though it could be a future plot device... Or did I miss something, and they found a cure? I'm sure the answer is out there. Thanks, Adam

01-01-2004, 03:50 PM	#2
dragonglove Knight of El Dingo Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 642	I did some research and as far as I can tell it doesn't directly say that they got their nightmare disease (poison) cured. However, episode 311 does say they completed their quest and they get the gold for it. I would naturally assume that the poison was cured during that time. __________________ Dg's back, maybe. I swear "Forum Days" will return someday. War is no reason to end a friendship. Metal Gear Solid

01-01-2004, 04:18 PM	#4
Sky Warrior Bob bOB iZ brOkeN Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a nice place to visit... Posts: 3,755	Okay, in this comic, Matoya asks if they brought her, the crystal she wanted. As you recall from this comic, Matoya stated that not only would she give them the antidote to the poison, but 200 Gil each. Then later on in this comic we see the Light Warriors woo-hooing about the money they just got. But we do NOT see the transaction of the money. Neither do we see our heros complain about having any more nightmares. So, the logical assumtion is that between 308 & 311, while we're having an interlude with the Dark Warriors, Matoya might just have given the Light Warriors the antidote to the poison. Sometimes we need to make assumptions. I personally assume that the blaze in Corneria has run its course, and the city has been re-built. I can't know that for certain, but without endless fuel, the flame can't can continued indefinitely, and there has to be at least a few survivors, or King Steve wouldn't have anyone to be King over. Sky Warrior Bob __________________ :bmage: Because breakdancing is evil, and so am I, you will click on this link: The power of evil compels you... You are in error. No one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation. Yes I know the breakdancing BM link doesn't work, and I don't care.

01-02-2004, 12:52 AM	#5
Stabbitty Death Oh Yeah!!!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mommy says I can stay in the basement for as long as I want Posts: 572	Didn't Matoya say that the cookies diluted most of the poison in the first place? So when they digested the cookies, wouldn't the poison have no effect? I don't know if that answers your question, but maybe it helps. __________________ Prepare to be dragonballed!! "Sorry, but FF1 roxorz my boxorz... FF8 SUXORZ my ClUCKSORZ". -Courtesy of Highschool Starship, by our very own Nique and Frozen Crono! The answer to any question: "Because the Wal-Mart tells us so!!"

01-03-2004, 07:36 PM	#7
MY2K the hat is back, folks Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 100	my god. you're RIGHT. they never directly got the cure. I'll bet they forgot about it completely. who knows. perhaps. damn it the suspense is killing me >.< __________________ The average penis length is 6.5" long. The average vaginal capacity is 8.5". So, in New York City alone, there is over 200 miles of unused vagina.

01-01-2004, 04:11 PM	#3
adamantairman Guest Posts: n/a	hmm, yeah it does look implied that they were healed. Thanks for the help on that, my dialup really isn't up to the task of going through all the episodes. I think thats too bad, that would've been an interesting plot loop hole to exploit later on.

01-03-2004, 09:53 PM	#8
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	Then again, we haven't seen a night scene since they left her cave, so they could still be poisoned, but they just gotten used to it by now. So unless we see a scene involving Matoya, or we get one at night, it's all conjecture. And "Pie Warrior Bib?" __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

01-05-2004, 02:15 AM	#9
pakopako Guest Posts: n/a	He's either incredibly skilled, or incredibly lucky. Ah, the mark of a good comic. Always able to gloss over a detail or a loose-end that we can ignore, and then come back to it with a slew of new arcs incase our interest needs to be re-hooked. -=PakoPako=- Last edited by pakopako; 01-05-2004 at 02:17 AM.

01-05-2004, 04:00 AM	#10
Kurosen Hmph, what a waste of words. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,071	No, (one of) the mark of a good comic is knowing that you don't have to show every single little event :P It is heavily implied that the antidote was given during the interlude. The Light Warriors showed evidence of suffering from the poison; they were in a situation where the antidote was about to be given to them; time passed during a scene that took place elsewhere; when next we see the Light Warriors there is no evidence of the poison holding any sway over them. It does not take an incredible leap of logic to assume that the antidote was delivered in the meantime. So there!