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Unread 04-30-2005, 01:19 AM   #11
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The point is that they were changing established charecters. It wasn't the art itself that was the problem, it was what that art represented. "Loonatics" wouldn't have been cool, or funny, or origonal. It was merging Bugs Bunny with the same stuff they shill out hour after hour on saturday morning - action cartoons, not done paticularly well. It is very much so an imitation of anime, which isn't bad in and of itself, but they don't do it right usually.

I like some anime, and I like some american cartoons. The difference is that a lot of anime is more suited for older kids and adults - even if there is nothing *bad* persay, its themes are often more truamatic and troubling. Let children have some slapstick cartoons shorts. I prefer that in my animation. Sure, they'll eat up Dragon Ball Z, but thats becuase its the only thing that the TV is ramming down their throats anymore... Its like they are standardizing every cartoon to be action-karate-chop! [/rant]
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Unread 04-30-2005, 09:22 AM   #12
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Yes, yes, also some very good points, I could branch off of that and write a long rant about anime imitations themselves, but I think it would be better not to and just say what I am here to say.

I must admit I loved these cartoons when I was younger. Hell, I still watch a few of them from time to time. However, we all know the anvil gag gets stale as the years go by. I'm not saying the old one has to go to make room for the new. I grew up watching Loony Tunes, and I'll always have a place in my heart for them. I believe the answer would be to keep both on the air, at different times or on different channels. This "update" don't have to replace the original, perhaps it could just become something for the older kids to grow into. No harm in that, right?
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Unread 04-30-2005, 09:43 AM   #13
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"Insight."

Insight?
does not equal insight.

Bugs Bunny and Warner Bros' other beloved characters are as much part of American culture as baseball, fast cars and apple pie. They are timeless.

If Warner Bros wants to make a dark, "insightful" anime-style cartoon, they can, but they should at least have to common decency and originality to leave characters (which have influenced 3 generations and counting) alone. Bugs Bunny already has a personality. It's not that hard to think of a new character. This is just a sign of laziness and a willingness to befoul something that is good in an attempt to make a new project look better.
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Unread 05-01-2005, 08:36 PM   #14
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Wow, I never thought those online petitions actually worked.
They don't, which is why I'm skeptical. This probably is a PR stunt of some kind. Now I doubt that WB went this elaborate with it, they probably did really intend to debut those travesties we hate so much. However, no one gives a shit about online petitions. That said, WB is probably going to make some minor modifications, maybe change the name of the show. If that. I dunno, somehow they'll weasel out of it.
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Unread 05-01-2005, 08:50 PM   #15
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Bugs Bunny and Warner Bros' other beloved characters are as much part of American culture as baseball, fast cars and apple pie. They are timeless.
But baseball is boring, fast cars are worthless seeming as we have speed limits, and apple pie isn't even that good (unless it's made right, and no one but our, collective, grandmothers make it right).

I'm not saying Loonatics looks like a good cartoon... or that the 'artwork' isn't the most absolutely horrible thing I've ever seen (those two-tone characters just about make my eyes bleed), but to hate it merely because it is altering something that has become a standard is rather baseless and short sighted.

Besides, they are new characters. They're like... genetic freak clones of the old ones or some stupid shit like that. They're going after more profit by riding the coat tails of something completely unrelated to the content of their new project. This isn't the first time the entertainment industry has done this, and it won't be the last.

It's best to get over it, take a few deep breaths, and go watch some invader zim or some of the original Looney Tunes, preferably ones with Foghorn Leghorn and the Chicken Hawk, because, in the end, all the bitching and moaning in the world isn't going to do a thing. WB said they'd make them softer? That doesn't mean anything. They also said they were going to keep it as an action/adventure cartoon. Little Thomas didn't do a damn thing, and neither will you.

You know what the only thing that IS going to make a difference will be? Nielson ratings. That's it.

So just forget about it and don't watch. It's all you can do.
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Unread 05-02-2005, 01:38 AM   #16
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"I was thinking about doing one against homework,"
Another way of phrasing this might be, "I'm not a real little boy, I am in fact a socio-political tool in use by a corporation to drum up attention for a poorly thought out and poorly executed hodge podge of mindless tradition and ripped off cultural ideosyncracies."

Loonatics was never going to be good. It's there to make money. Children are fascinated by bright colors, if you let them they will watch anything. Look at the success of Barney. This ploy is aimed at parents who are uncomfortable with drastic change, who are quicly becoming alienated and frustrated by the recent influx of new and strange "childrens programming". haunted by hushed rumors of "pornographic Japanese cartoons" and the like, they waste precious brain cells and minutes obsessing over what to allow their precious little TV zombies to watch. Many I'm sure have reached such a point of distance from current animated programming that they refuse to allow anything unfamiliar to pass before their childrens eyes. Loonatics was quite simply, to alien for parents. Warner Brothers did not want to risk losing the parents approval by overtly identifying with those "strange violent Japanese cartoons". Thye know what kids want, they know what parents want, and unfortunately for us, neither of them give a damn about an interesting plot line.

also, Chicago is a genius.

and baseball can be fun. :P

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Unread 05-02-2005, 06:50 AM   #17
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Yes, Funka. I am a genius.[/ego]
Yes, if you go by whatever that mind of mine conjured up such a time ago. Or this.
Apologies for lack of topic addition. I was going somewhere with it.
I'm still rather annoyed by the outcome provided though the actions of this child/ploy-toy. I was somewhat curious to see what would become of the sharp-to-a-point character designs. Now I've gotta wait for the new, softer designs. Or someone who'll take up the "make sharp Loonatics kill stuff and look professional and violent and cool" animation challenge.
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