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Sithdarth · 05-29-2006, 03:00 PM

Well a quick glance over at Nintendo's first party software shows at least three possibly 4-5 single or mostly single player games. Not to mention this lovely list of 3rd party games more than a few of which will either be totally one player or have a decent one player mode.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Nintedo's actually wisened up a little since there last gen. They know if they really want the Wii to appeal to everyone they have to make a very broad spectrum of games and forcing certain playmodes on every game will disrupt that. That's not to say a few crazy ass games won't do that.

As for the casings I do believe Ninendo mentioned something about not actually needing those to play any of their games. Its just they might make some games more realistic. Like playing an FPS with the gun attachment. You could still play it with just the Wii-mote but it wouldn't feel quite as immersive as it could.

Bells · 05-29-2006, 04:27 PM

From the 17 "ready-for-launch" titles, how many actually work better on Songle player then on Multiplayer?

I know that Zelda, Mario and Red Steel are in there, but thats only 3 out of 17, what else is there?

Sithdarth · 05-29-2006, 04:56 PM

Let's see Project H.A.M.M.E.R. doesn't seem like it'd be a very good multiplayer game. Also all the demos I've seen for it show one player.

Diaster Day of crisis is pretty much in the same boat as Hammer.

And every Metoroid game I've ever heard about had a decent single player mode.

FF: Crystal Chronicals will probably be single player or at least have a single mode if it follows the general pattern of FF games.

Elebits might be multiplayer but then again its supposed to be a pikmin clone and I have no idea about how they approached that game.

Now if the Joy Of Painting has a multilayer mode I'll probably have to eat my shoe.

Orb seems a little under developed for launch but the style of play they say they want lends itself to one player.

Raid over the River also appears to be a game centered around a single main character and thus inherently one player.

Sadness Seems a lot like an Eternal Darkness clone once again leaning towards one player.

I can't envision there being 2 Spider-Mans in Spider-Man 3.

Some of those aren't launch titles but it gives you an idea of what's coming for the system.

Now if you look here you can get a look at the 16 100% going to happen launch titles. Five of which have confirmed single player only 3 are unknown and could go single player only and several more have tentative next to the number of players. (That means the could go either way.) Not to mention most of those games listed would play nearly as well alone as with a friend.

So the total launch count for single player games is 5-8, and total for all games anounced is anywhere from 8-11 or 12 out of no more than 20 announced titles. So as I said before Nintendo, and its 3rd parties, seem to be following the same general pattern in regards to single and multiplayer games as they always have. Of course there is the added possiblity of online play through the Wii. In which case if you can't stir up at least one person out of several million to play with you've got some issues.

Bamboozehound · 05-29-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Game Title: The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross
Developer: AGFRAG Entertainment Group. According to an e-mail from own Joseph Hatcher, everything is currently being moved from San Jose, CA to Kodak, TN.
History with Nintendo: None
About the Game: The game was announced in March 2006 press release by Bob Ross, Inc. The game is currently scheduled for release on the PC, Nintendo DS, and Nintendo Wii. The game is still in the design phase.
Using the Controller: Currently unknown, but we are predicting a scenario where one uses the controller as a paintbrush (or a spray can). Said Hatcher, "to remain competitive with our products, we can't share that information at this time. Control will be intuitive and easy. Watch the Bob Ross TV shows, and you'll start to put two and two together."
Release Date: Unknown; no publisher has been announced. Any interested publishers and / or investors should contact AGFRAG at jhatcher [at] agfrag.com.

I'm going to cry.

Bells · 05-29-2006, 05:57 PM

Actually... a game like "jet set radio" could be somewhat fun on the wii about the "paiting" part... but.. bob freakin ross?!

Regulus Tera · 05-29-2006, 06:01 PM

Awesome, isn't it? My happy little trees will finally be happy little virtual trees!

Fifthfiend · 05-29-2006, 06:13 PM

Wii + White Man's Afro FTW!

MuMu · 05-29-2006, 06:21 PM

They could just take out the afro guy and rename it to Mario Paint - Remix...

Bamboozehound · 05-29-2006, 06:53 PM

Please do not lightly put Bob Ross aside. He is a national treasure, okay.

The Wandering God · 05-30-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by krylo

I don't know. Nintendo has forced me to find three friends to play a game (to any degree of meaning) before. In fact, it's forced me to find three friends, with three game link cables, and three gameboy advances.

Isn't that right Mr. Potatomato?

Not that they'll do it with every game, but it'll happen with plenty of them. And I'll bet my right nut you'll have to buy a bunch of add-ons and sleeves for the wii-mote seperately to play a bunch of them, too.

Maaaaaaaayyyyybe your kidding. But it does allow me to address that thought.

How did it "force" you? Last time I checked, FF:CC didn't come with the instructions, "If you don't play this game with all the attachments and whatnot... you'll DIE!".

Isn't it easy to judge something we don't know anything about yet? How much attachments will cost. How many will be released. Or anything really.

Noone is forcing you to buy Donkey Konga with the drums. But you need those drums to play, right?

If you don't like the idea of numerious peripherals and Nintendo does decide to go that route, here is what ya do.

Don't buy them. Seriously, withholding your dollar is the single best protest you can make. And if the game is good? Well, maybe it's worth it. Or not. That's really up to you. I'm not going to tell anyone how to spend there money.

But that doesn't mean they have to bitch about it either.

The Wandering God

05-29-2006, 04:27 PM	#32
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	From the 17 "ready-for-launch" titles, how many actually work better on Songle player then on Multiplayer? I know that Zelda, Mario and Red Steel are in there, but thats only 3 out of 17, what else is there? __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

05-29-2006, 04:56 PM	#33
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Let's see Project H.A.M.M.E.R. doesn't seem like it'd be a very good multiplayer game. Also all the demos I've seen for it show one player. Diaster Day of crisis is pretty much in the same boat as Hammer. And every Metoroid game I've ever heard about had a decent single player mode. FF: Crystal Chronicals will probably be single player or at least have a single mode if it follows the general pattern of FF games. Elebits might be multiplayer but then again its supposed to be a pikmin clone and I have no idea about how they approached that game. Now if the Joy Of Painting has a multilayer mode I'll probably have to eat my shoe. Orb seems a little under developed for launch but the style of play they say they want lends itself to one player. Raid over the River also appears to be a game centered around a single main character and thus inherently one player. Sadness Seems a lot like an Eternal Darkness clone once again leaning towards one player. I can't envision there being 2 Spider-Mans in Spider-Man 3. Some of those aren't launch titles but it gives you an idea of what's coming for the system. Now if you look here you can get a look at the 16 100% going to happen launch titles. Five of which have confirmed single player only 3 are unknown and could go single player only and several more have tentative next to the number of players. (That means the could go either way.) Not to mention most of those games listed would play nearly as well alone as with a friend. So the total launch count for single player games is 5-8, and total for all games anounced is anywhere from 8-11 or 12 out of no more than 20 announced titles. So as I said before Nintendo, and its 3rd parties, seem to be following the same general pattern in regards to single and multiplayer games as they always have. Of course there is the added possiblity of online play through the Wii. In which case if you can't stir up at least one person out of several million to play with you've got some issues. Last edited by Sithdarth; 05-29-2006 at 04:59 PM.

05-29-2006, 05:57 PM	#35
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Actually... a game like "jet set radio" could be somewhat fun on the wii about the "paiting" part... but.. bob freakin ross?! __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

05-29-2006, 06:13 PM	#37
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Wii + White Man's Afro FTW! __________________ check out my buttspresso

05-29-2006, 03:00 PM	#31
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Well a quick glance over at Nintendo's first party software shows at least three possibly 4-5 single or mostly single player games. Not to mention this lovely list of 3rd party games more than a few of which will either be totally one player or have a decent one player mode. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Nintedo's actually wisened up a little since there last gen. They know if they really want the Wii to appeal to everyone they have to make a very broad spectrum of games and forcing certain playmodes on every game will disrupt that. That's not to say a few crazy ass games won't do that. As for the casings I do believe Ninendo mentioned something about not actually needing those to play any of their games. Its just they might make some games more realistic. Like playing an FPS with the gun attachment. You could still play it with just the Wii-mote but it wouldn't feel quite as immersive as it could.

05-29-2006, 06:01 PM	#36
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	Awesome, isn't it? My happy little trees will finally be happy little virtual trees!

05-29-2006, 06:21 PM	#38
MuMu Rocky Wrench Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rio Posts: 1,197	They could just take out the afro guy and rename it to Mario Paint - Remix...

05-29-2006, 06:53 PM	#39
Bamboozehound Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Glass building, 20 stories high Posts: 194	Please do not lightly put Bob Ross aside. He is a national treasure, okay.