Mafia: NPF edition

[dojindog]

While B_real came up with a good defense I think I should still rebuttal

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

He accuses Roy of being suspicious because he's just tagging along, when all he really did for the rest of the thread was follow Mes around with her arguement with Sith. (While I don't think either of you are mafia yet, just players with opposing viewpoints. I must say it was a nice way to gather information on other players.).

I accused Roy of being suspicious because he was stating the same facts just after they were alread mentioned which is slightly spammy (in my eyes) and yes I tail'd Mesden around for a while I know I shouldn't do that but Mesden's ideas seemed really easy to follow at 1:00 in the morning.

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

So presenting evidence and re-itterating facts is bad? Am I just reading this wrong? Isn't that what a lawyer (And in this game everyone is a prosecution and a defense lawyer) does? Restate evidence that supports their veiw while denouncing their opponent's evidence? How does evidence make things confusing?

Evidence doesn't make things confusing but hithishiishianisexamplehi sure as heck is (in my opinion) this is what Roy was doing except not on near as annoying scale. (if you can't read that try taking out the hi's)

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

I don't see this whole vote quickly or the mafia's gonna get you thing. Perhaps I'm just leaning more on Sith's thought style but you don't need to vote just to vote. You need to vote when there is a reson to vote.

I said earlier that I didn't mean for you not to put any thought into your vote. What I'm trying to get across here is vote when you first feel like it is right to vote.

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

Why do you hate to take sides with Mesden. Personal vendetta, fear she's scummy? Also Mesden was doing the same thing as Sith here, wording her phrases so she appeared good and Sith bad. It seems Mes just did a better job convincing him.

B_real was right on target with her assumption on why I hate to side with Mesden and, as I said earlier I sided with Mes because at 1:00 in the morning her ideals were easy to follow I know it's a really bad defense and I hate to use it but it's the truth.

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

To clarify, I don't see how deducing and reasoning over time can be bad. Does that mean I think we should wait forever, no.

This is exactly what I'm trying to say!

Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

This line of thinking is completely wrong. Innocent men are sent to prison because they look guilty, because people want them to be guilty, etc. If someone (lets say a police officer) was threatening your life (death penalty, as in this game) because he thought you did something, even if you knew you didn't. You would get frustrated, upset, and fearful. After all you're an INNOCENT man going to be put to DEATH for someone elses crime, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

I could understand that point of view if he was actually being voted for on our words (Mesden's really) but I wouldn't be worried about an authority figure trying to throw me in jail if he had no evidence (people voting for me).

Rebuttal'd enough for you?

[Daisuke]

Hey, everyone. Sorry for chiming in so late here. I've been trying to follow the thread for the most part, but things have been pretty hectic over here. My grandparents' anniversary was over the weeked, so we've been kind of rushed.

That aside... I don't know Roy's level of experience, cause I'm just a nub myself, but still... He does seem pretty suspicious by this. Seems like selective memory. Not worry about who's attacking him, just who he's after.

Of course that's just one possibility... still, I don't like how the conversation just ended in

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Now there is a good explanation. Thank you. I can understand that. I just couldn't understand why before, when no-one would explain it to me.a

He admits understanding of suspicion and then the case drops?

I'm not saying anything by this, I'm just saying shouldn't we not leave a stone unturned?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Well. No-one would explain why they thought my forgetting a name was suspicious until Mesden mentioned it. I wanted to know. I wouldn't have immediately jumped on someone because they forgot someone's name. It was an accident. Those things happen when it's real damn early in the morning.

[Silly Kitty]

Roy, I did explain it to you. Go back and look. Those were my reasons. Mes just put what I was trying to say in simpler terms.

I was under the impression by someone this wasn't your first game. I don't think I was being too harsh I think by telling you these things and pointing them out I am making you a better player.

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Roy, I did explain it to you. Go back and look. Those were my reasons. Mes just put what I was trying to say in simpler terms.

I was under the impression by someone this wasn't your first game. I don't think I was being too harsh I think by telling you these things and pointing them out I am making you a better player.

Well except no. No, you didn't.

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

Because you changed the facts. Silly Kitty and Ecurt are NOT similar in any way. It seems like you aren't paying attention. This is the second time you have messed up what you are saying.

and

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

When you misremember something and state it to someone else that person will remember it the way you said. Whether you meant it that way or not is not the point. For the person who read it that is the facts. Getting your facts right is key in this game. Anything you say can and will be used against you. I'm not too sure about you as of this point. Expect my vote later.

Those are the two posts you offered up in explanation. Those are totally different from Mesden's explanation. You said I was changing facts. What you said was closer to what sk3l3ton said, and Mesden and sk3l3ton are NOT similar in any way.

[P-Sleazy]

Originally Posted by Dojindawg

B_real was right on target with her assumption

WEEEE! I'm a girl now! I'm gonna go touch my newly formed girl lumps now. TEE-HEE ^.^

Actually, I'm a guy. I can see how my avatar can confuse some. It is only one of the coolest girls EVER in anime, but still, its EXCEL! How could you deny her awesomeness?

[Daisuke]

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Those are the two posts you offered up in explanation. Those are totally different from Mesden's explanation. You said I was changing facts. What you said was closer to what sk3l3ton said, and Mesden and sk3l3ton are NOT similar in any way.

Haha, are we having more identity crises here? :p

[Silly Kitty]

When you misremember something and state it to someone else that person will remember it the way you said. Whether you meant it that way or not is not the point. For the person who read it that is the facts. Getting your facts right is key in this game. Anything you say can and will be used against you. I'm not too sure about you as of this point. Expect my vote later.

This right here would be me explaining that I thought it was a tactic the mafia would use. I'm sorry it didn't come out so clear for you but that is what is was. I didn't confuse names so don't act like I did. I did offer you more advice than Mes did, but Mes did just explain it to you simpler.

[neyo the king]

First off, I would like to say Roy, while you my be new, you should be more careful about getting your info straight. It can come back to bite you, and I have seen it happen. On that note, I Unvote: Roy but I will still keep an eye on you. Just in case. Now, with that over I will say that, Dojindog, I've had suspicions about you for a while, but I was busy with Roy. Now that Hax mage has posted, and you responded, I'm going to see how this turns out.

Edit: Dang, this Mafia should be renamed Mafia: Ninja'd edition!

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Silly Kitty

This right here would be me explaining that I thought it was a tactic the mafia would use. I'm sorry it didn't come out so clear for you but that is what is was. I didn't confuse names so don't act like I did. I did offer you more advice than Mes did, but Mes did just explain it to you simpler.

No. That's different. That's closer to what sk3l3ton said. Your post indicates nothing about my feigning innocence/ignorance to make myself seem less important.