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Sithdarth · 07-28-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy

I can't defend myself from a gut instinct. So, really, whatever.

Now see you probably shouldn't have said that. Yes you can't defend yourself to any greater degree than you already have. After all its all about my inerpertation of what you've said. However, its not a gut feeling as that I have an actual reason and logical backing.

Now either you've made a mistake here or you are trying to very sneakily undermine my postion. A better thing to do, assuming you were looking for a reason to post, would have been to find some piece of evidence to explore.

Roy_D_Mylote · 07-28-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithdarth

Now see you probably shouldn't have said that. Yes you can't defend yourself to any greater degree than you already have. After all its all about my inerpertation of what you've said. However, its not a gut feeling as that I have an actual reason and logical backing.

Now either you've made a mistake here or you are trying to very sneakily undermine my postion. A better thing to do, assuming you were looking for a reason to post, would have been to find some piece of evidence to explore.

I was talking to Nikose. Not you. Nikose voted for me because he didn't want to vote for the other two. Gut instinct.

Sithdarth · 07-28-2006, 10:27 PM

Well that's why stating names help. Also he isn't running on total gut instincts either. He has reasons and evidence just not strong evidence. That's kind of why he said this:

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Originally Posted by Nikose

And a quick edit, to say that I'm voting Roy w/o decent evidence, simply because of the three, he seems most likely right now. If evidence emerges otherwise, sweet deal.

Bailey · 07-29-2006, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

You know, I'm not sure our reasons for lynching IHMN are really all that solid. There's a big difference between being a dummy and being scum. My guess is that, if anything, he's either an unlynchable townie trying the same strategy DojinDog used in NPF Mafia to get his townieness out there, and failed to realize the implications to that strategy of the BG being dead. Or maybe he's some role that takes someone with it if their lynched, though why he'd be trying to activate it so early is beyond me.

So, anyway, what I'm saying is- IHMN maybe be the best lead we have, but its a flimsy one, and I'm not going after him until we see something else to prove he's scummy.

Alright, here, he correctly pins IHMN as Crafty, but he does so in a way that also brings forwards the possibility of IHMN trying to activate an autokill role, trying to pass it off as a reason that IHMN is innocent, possibly hoping for the vig to take IHMN out for him.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

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Originally Posted by Nikose

I'm voting steel_shadow for using the term, "Bandwagoning" on IHMN when, at that point, IHMN and I had the same amount of votes.

"Bandwagoning" would mean you're voting for someone purely because a bunch of other people are. It doesn't neccessarily mean voting for who has the majority of votes, just that you're voting for no reason other than 'going with the flow.' Now, if you had had more votes than IHMN, it might have been suspicious.

Completely diverting attention away from a scale tip by saying it would only be suspicious if it was a useless gesture.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

Just got back, a LOT of interesting things gone on since I last posted. Got rid of all the killing roles, and TGT gave us a crazy run-around. Looks like I have to Vote: The Gentleman Thief.

Nothing to see here.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

One thing I'm suprised noone has pointed out yet is that, based on how soon the night roles got sent in after Secret Skull was lynched, one could reasonably assume that one of the people who voted for TGT is the Don, and another is the CL. So, the list of people to be suspicious (minus the accepted townies Mesden and Arhra) of is-

Ecurt
Roy
Newb
CrazyBen
Marius
Twiddy
Sithdarth

And I'd say Roy is the most suspicious person on that list. Most of his early posts were trying to get us to lynch lurkers, which always seems to turn out to be a Mafia tactic to kill of some townies with having to use flimsy evidence and having it blow up in your face. I think I'll Vote: Roy_D_Mylote until we can find someone more suspicious.

Now here, just because Mesden is Paranoid doesn't mean she isn't the cult leader, and just because Arhra was Loyal to one person doesn't mean he can't be a mafiate or even the don.

Plus, he completely ignores people who might be invisible.

If I hadn't posted, I wouldn't be on that list, seeing as how I've been invisible since Basic.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

Well, to be honest, I was just using Ecurt's list of non-suspicious people. Yell at him, not me.

Well, actually, she MIGHT be a cult draftee, but I'm pretty sure that, since she had the Paranoid role, she couldn't be the CL, and I'd rather we try to get the CL and the Mafia first before we go around trying to root out draftees.

Edit: Changed a spelling error

Shifting blame to Ecurt, making claims about how a Personality precludes a Role.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBen

All I know is that you were on to vote for TGT. I don't watch who's on when, so I have no way to know you got off RIGHT after you voted for him. It only took us about 20 minutes to lynch him. Also, you could have sent in your message before the lynch, and just pointed out the TGT was dead anyway, so you might as well get in your hit before going to bed, just to speed things up.

Nothing specific to see here, but this simply echoes wrong to me.

All of his other posts were on this page (at least if you have it set to 40) so you guys should be able to find them without too much searching to look at them on your own.

CrazyBen · 07-29-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Newb

Alright, here, he correctly pins IHMN as Crafty, but he does so in a way that also brings forwards the possibility of IHMN trying to activate an autokill role, trying to pass it off as a reason that IHMN is innocent, possibly hoping for the vig to take IHMN out for him.

No, I was saying he probably didn't need killing period.

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Originally Posted by Newb

Completely diverting attention away from a scale tip by saying it would only be suspicious if it was a useless gesture.

I was just trying to stop a fight, before it got unpleasant.

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Originally Posted by Newb

Now here, just because Mesden is Paranoid doesn't mean she isn't the cult leader, and just because Arhra was Loyal to one person doesn't mean he can't be a mafiate or even the don.

Plus, he completely ignores people who might be invisible.

If I hadn't posted, I wouldn't be on that list, seeing as how I've been invisible since Basic.

It was my understanding that a person could only get one role. So them having a role would preclude having another one. I guess I might be wrong, and you could have multiple roles.
Also, yes, I know, its been pointed out that the Don/CL might be invisible, I was just listing people who were for sure on at the time.

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Originally Posted by Newb

Shifting blame to Ecurt, making claims about how a Personality precludes a Role.

Again, I thought you could only have one role. And Ecurt, he needs blamin'(joke son!).

MariusTwilight · 07-29-2006, 06:18 PM

It is possible to be given two roles at once. I'm not trusting Mesden much, but not enough solid evidence that pits anything against her, yet. As for Ahra, she seems town aligned, but I could be wrong. I mean hey, we were all wrong with Secrect Skull Before.

Mesden · 07-29-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MariusTwilight

It is possible to be given two roles at once. I'm not trusting Mesden much, but not enough solid evidence that pits anything against her, yet. As for Ahra, she seems town aligned, but I could be wrong. I mean hey, we were all wrong with Secrect Skull Before.

SERIOUSLY, aside from the paranoid role thing, could you tell me WHY you're suspicious? Or atleast why you put my name in every post about some unearthed dislike you have of me?
Edit for the underlined.

MariusTwilight · 07-29-2006, 08:04 PM

If I state why, I won't live through the night. Though trust me, it gives me plenty reason to be suspicious of you. If I coudl find good proof besides what I know, I could show others. But your just to damn good to slip.

Mesden · 07-29-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MariusTwilight

If I state why, I won't live through the night. Though trust me, it gives me plenty reason to be suspicious of you. If I coudl find good proof besides what I know, I could show others. But your just to damn good to slip .

I'll pull this...post out quote by quote.

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If I state why, I won't live through the night.

You're kidding, right? Seriously? You have to be, because no one lacks the common sense you just seemingly shunned away.

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Though trust me, it gives me plenty reason to be suspicious of you.

Yes, because that half roleclaim you just stated twice is totally reliable, even though pure basic logic dictates you just fucked it up.

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If I coudl find good proof besides what I know, I could show others.

You just fucked up everything, Marius. This is why I don't believe you, because you totally just gave away everything with this whole very subtle routine.

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But your just to damn good to slip

...Excuse me? Seriously, I'm tired of this run-about, Marius. I'm not going to believe you because you're failing at subtlety very badly. You're acting like saying this isn't some indicator, and it is, apparently.

You just blatantly stated that you want me to slip, that you know SOMETHING awful about me, that no one else does, that if you say ANYTHING ELSE, you're going to die overnight, and this is all totally reliable, and it's half pointless by what you're saying.

You basically say, "You're scum, and I know. I can't tell anyone WHY I know, because I'll totally die overnight. But I'm right, so, I'm not gonna die overnight after all of this."

That's my interpretation, and it comes off as pretty asinine in all relative terms. What can I say other than I don't believe this, especially in the way you presented it.

Edit: You know what? After thinking this over, and really just looking at the crap you threw on the table here, I'm going to Vote: Marius Twilight. Because it's just >---{my limit}----------------------------{Marius}---< THAT too much past my limit of reasonable doubt to understand any of what you're trying to pull.

Inbred Chocobo · 07-29-2006, 09:30 PM

Okay guys, I have a confession.

Roleclaim: Police officer.

And while I am at it

Roleclaim: Mafia Don

And since I am still here

Roleclaim: Cult Leader

Roleclaim: Cult Initiate

Roleclaim: Pizza delivery boy

Alright, since all of you guys are panzies, it looks like I gotta do this myself.

Unvote: Whoever I was previously voting for

Vote: MariusTwilight

Why? Cuz Mesden said it best, trying to subtly say you are the PO is bullshit really, and bam. There we go.

07-29-2006, 06:18 PM	#356
MariusTwilight Waitwut? Join Date: May 2006 Location: There's lots of dark things! Posts: 26	It is possible to be given two roles at once. I'm not trusting Mesden much, but not enough solid evidence that pits anything against her, yet. As for Ahra, she seems town aligned, but I could be wrong. I mean hey, we were all wrong with Secrect Skull Before.

07-29-2006, 08:04 PM	#358
MariusTwilight Waitwut? Join Date: May 2006 Location: There's lots of dark things! Posts: 26	If I state why, I won't live through the night. Though trust me, it gives me plenty reason to be suspicious of you. If I coudl find good proof besides what I know, I could show others. But your just to damn good to slip.