Mafia: Bleach

[Ole' Dude With the Face]

Originally Posted by Nikose

Oh, for god's sake. Mafiates wouldn't be inactive; mafiates don't hit one of their own. The town is almost definitely corrupted by Cult, and I have a major beleif that Mesden had the role as Cult leader,which simply got passed to Ole dude with the face, and since the PO has not been revealed to show for certain anyone's ID, We're all guessing and the shittiest facts I've ever seen.

So UNVOTE: WHOEVER I WAS VOTING FOR
and
VOTE: OL DUDE WITH THE FACE
just to see if I was right.

I listed everyone of my reasons, let's just kick this game into overdrive and try a win for the Town, or at least go down fighting.

Now, first, I will address this. Lets look at a bit of the statistics behind this theory. Since we all know roles are assigned randomly, the basic possibility of Me/Mesden gaining the Cult Leader role is 1/25 or 4%. Now, add in the fact that during the last Mafia game (8bitchat: Mafia, if I recall correctly) Mesden was the cult leader during that game. Now the possibility of her pulling the Cult Leader role twice, in two consecutive Mafias is 1/625 or 0.17%

Not a very high possibility, huh? Now if it was true, I'd suggest Mesden immediately go and buy a couple of lottery tickets and she'd be a millionaire, because she'd have to be basically the luckiest person ever.

Also, I see no evidence whatsoever being presented with these claims. Sounds like random speculation, or is it another one of those wacky gut feelings everyone seems to be having? Must be.


Now, in the very next post we see:

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

UNVOTE: DIRTY SCUMMY ARHRA
VOTE: Ol' dude with the face.

Just to see if Nikose is right.

EDIT: To bold votes.

That looks an awful lot like bandwagoning to me. But maybe its just me.

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Unvote: That guy
Vote: Roy_the_Mafian

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Do you always hafta call me Roy The Mafian? It's unsettling.

I did a random vote because no-one knows anything on the first day. There's no real clue.

Why is an obvious joke so unsettling?

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Welcome to the Nuklear Power Forums, person I have surely never met in real life at all ever.

His first name is Greg.

Wild hunch.

Originally Posted by Mr.G.Williams

Vote: Mylote
It's sudden! Hurray! Quiet stupid guy has done something spontaneous!
Seriously though, I know Roy pretty well. He acts...funny... when he's being a dirty liar. It wasn't as quite as manifest earlier in the game, but as we progressed... he started to act shifty. Uptight, chatty, etc...
Of course, anyone who votes with me would have to be following on blind faith. It is a relatively ungrounded opinion. I could do something overdramatic, like a role-claim or such, but I won't. You just have to trust the crazy guy. Feel free to kill me if I'm wrong. I would deserve it for making ya'll waste a lynching.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

You have nothing to roleclaim cause you're a TOWNIE.

You seem to know who is a townie all too well.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Oh, you replaced Adghar and his role, whatever it was, was reassigned, as SK said, so you got a townie slot and some townie got his role.

Sure, but wouldn't he then be a prime suspect to be recruited by the cult? I mean, IF I was the cult leader I'd bring in someone unknown who is also basically a confirmed townie. It just seems like a good practice.

Originally Posted by Mr.G.Williams

Again with the jumping right in to divert attention. Watch him, town.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

What? That makes no sense. You're getting stupid in your old age.

But fo' serious. Posting the very first post after the deaht post is never attention-diverting. Who was I diverting attention to? Hmm? No-one, that's who. And who was I diverting attention away from? Not myself, that's for sure. If anything people would say, "ZOMG he was on at the same time the mafia killed someone he's the mafia guy!"

Crazy old man.

Now you are using jokes to dismiss someone who seems to know you pretty decently's suspicion and to bat away the suspicion of anyone who might look at this.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Hey! Didn't I say stop with the calling me that? Makin' me all nervous.

Again with that nervousness over a joke. Seems to be a reoccuring thing.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Hey now.

Voting for someone who, as has been stated at least four times, isn't here is just plain scummy.

Vote: Arhra.

Defending Nikose here. So now you've both defended him, while pointing the finger at someone else (how convienent you could just say that you were defending someone who was away as well), and bandwagonned him. (**NOTE: Not necessarily in that order, mind you**)

Originally Posted by Mr.G.Williams

Mylote: Roy has lain low most of the game. His arguments have been fickle and he distrusted Fenris who we know now to have been a townie (R.I.P.). Again, he was quick to move with a random vote, then quick to switch to Fauck when it became the popular opinion.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

How 'bout where Arhra voted for someone NOT HERE TO DEFEND THEMSELF, and when he voted for me for a reason that made no sense?

This was referring to Nikose, still. Seems to be he has a vengance for Arhra attacking Nikose. I wonder why?

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

As much as it goes against my gut feeling, having re-read the thread, I'm gonna unvote: Arhra because 1. He claims something bad will happen if he's lynched and 2. It is POSSIBLE, I suppose, to skip over some posts or just forget. Even though I'm still sore at him for voting for me for no reason. But who to vote for? Newb seems to be a prime runner, although I suspect Ole Dude is mafia. But the mafia targetted him, you say? Well, I think maybe the Mafia actually targetted Fenris, who happened to be imitating Ole dude.

It's a stretch, I know, but like I said, I'm not voting for them.

Can't always defend Nikose, eh? But, you know, you can shift the attention to me.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Quite a bit of Being Real Slow syndrome here, but I'm gonna VOTE: Newb. Because, you know, do I really have to explain it? For all the reasons people like Williams, IC, etc. said. Make me explain, fine, I'll just probably quote them.

Sure, maybe you're real slow, or maybe you just don't want to be not voting for him when he gets lynched. I mean, scum would never vote for another scum. Or would they?

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

I wouldn't say it's EVERYONE. It's mostly, me.

Yeah, I noticed that you're all kinds of crazy suspicious about me.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

No. Wrong. It's a problem anyway. He could have been trying to get that started to kill Nikose, someone who wouldn't be able to defend himself.

Yeah, it would have been a real problem because you know, you two are such good buddies and all. Can't be having your teammates getting killed, eh? Thats just bad for business.

Originally Posted by Nikose

Yeah, I was being overcareful. I've been doing that a lot lately, trying to be very careful. I like Roy, and I didn't want a mod to come in and see the bolds and think it was unhandled.

Man, you two play good as a team. Helping each other out. Trying to help each other chill out when one gets riled up.

Also, being very careful? I wonder why? Wouldn't want to slip up or anything, eh?

Originally Posted by Nikose

No reason for this vote, other than the ones already listed.
I'm not on vacation!
VOTE: GARUD

Helping to start a nice little bandwagon against a someone you know is a townie?

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

I think IC raises a good point, with him talking about Nikose's discussion of "Do the mafia know the mafia". Really. If I were the cult leader and I got a mafia, I'd wanna know who else was in the mafia so I could get a chat8bit style thing going. You all remember.

Vote:Nikose until he explains himself. I'd FOS, but I don't do that.

Aww, you can't be buddies all the time, but wait...

[Ole' Dude With the Face]

Originally Posted by Nikose

I asked because I didn't know if Mafia knew each other; Since all roles are private, I wondered if Mafiates knew who each other were, or if they all only reported to SK with their votes and majority hit vote won. I didn't know for sure how it functioned.

Also, I think that 'Hurt myself to get into the hospital as a viable excuse' thing was a tad harsh. :P My rib healed wrong after it broke, I didn't do that on purpose.

And what feels wrong with my vote? I don't honestly know. I could list a half dozen things about how I'm busy applying for colleges, getting my Driver's license, etc etc but in the end, it's up to you guys whether you vote me or not. For my part? I'm looking at UNVOTE: GARUD myself now, because I'm more concerned with actually finding the cult leader.

Hang me out to dry if you will; I don't have a secret role to defend myself with like everyone else claims.

^ See all that up there? that was me defending myself, before I brought attention to another concern; You guys made me think about Arhra. And I actually do find her much more suspicious than anyone else, including Garud. So, I'm holding my vote on THIS post; but I will FoS: Arhra now, because she pointed out the numbers like she did.

And... Yeah. Anything else I need to say?

He gives an explanation and points out that SOMEONE wanted an explanation.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Okay. UNVOTE: Nikose.


EDIT: And back to my old vote, VOTE: Arhra.

And they're buddies again!

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

As it was hammered into me last game, Lurking /=/ scum most of the time.

Glad you put the word kmost of the time in there. Some of the time people lurk to hide, some of the time they try to hide in plain sight... we wouldn't know anyone trying to do that, would we?

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Like they were some kinda mindless mob. Like, of zombies. Or a...cult.

No better way to hide then to put something in plain sight. Or maybe you just want to get rid of the cult too, I mean, the Mafia can start to feel threatened by them right about now, too.

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Then there is Roy, cuz part of his name is mafia.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

For the love of Jesus.

Still touchy about this subject, I see.

Originally Posted by Nikose

Hey! You forgot how I broke my ribs at a most inauspicious time, IC! How could you forget THAT?

Can't forget about your teammate... I mean, buddy.


So now, to conclude, I'm point a huge FOS: Nikose

and I'm going to

Vote: Roy_D_Scumminess


DOUBLE POST DUE TO BUFFER OVERFLOW: DON'T HURT ME MODS

Edit to add part about double post at bottom.

[Silly Kitty]

Ole' Dude, if you want to save space so you don't have to double post you can just link the posts instead of quoting them.

[Arhra]

Well, if my theory is right about the mafia being under the control of the cult, we're doomed.

I for one praise our new overlords and would like to remind them that I could be useful in gathering others to work in their underground sugar mines... er... cult... praising... temple... places...

However, there is still the possibility that the mafia is not yet infiltrated or that the scum numbers are less than we migh otherwise believe. There is the possibility that the mafia has been the main target of the cult.

Ole Dude certainly seems to have a very well put together argument. Roy's behaviour has been a bit erratic, especially lately. For these reasons:

Vote: Roy

[Inbred Chocobo]

An interesting proposition Ole' Dude, but I do feel like I must comment on the jokes. Mostly I just want to say that the jokes have appeared in other games before these. Only like once or twice though, and I am in no mood to dig it up. Yet I have no idea how Roy reacted to that/those jokes, so I can't compare it to these.

As for the Nikose Ribs thing? When was that a teammate thing? I don't get that temmate thingy there.

And its not scummy, its mafianesinator damnit!

Vote: Roy_Da_Mafianesinator (You know I am kidding with ya man.)

[Ole' Dude With the Face]

My fault SK, I am still relatively new to these forums, I was having a bit of trouble just putting all those quotes together as I did. I will remember that next time.

IC: Its not necessarily the joke that I'm referring to there, but once more the "hide in plain sight" ideology here. He is trying to work the whole I got hurt so I must be innocent, when real life really has very little to nothing to do with this Mafia. Just because he got hurt and couldn't respond for a little while doesn't mean he isn't as scummy as the next person.

[Ryanderman]

I was suspicious of Nikose earlier in the game, before he went to the hospital. But after he was gone for a while I mostly set it aside. Ole Dude's accusations are quite well thought out, but probably wouldn't be enough to convince me if I wasn't already pretty sure of Nikose's scummyness. I stand almost sure that Roy is scum, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wait for his defense before I vote.

Edited for grammar

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Ole' Dude With the Face

Now, first, I will address this. Lets look at a bit of the statistics behind this theory. Since we all know roles are assigned randomly, the basic possibility of Me/Mesden gaining the Cult Leader role is 1/25 or 4%. Now, add in the fact that during the last Mafia game (8bitchat: Mafia, if I recall correctly) Mesden was the cult leader during that game. Now the possibility of her pulling the Cult Leader role twice, in two consecutive Mafias is 1/625 or 0.17%

The fact that she was the cult leader in that game is utterly irrelevant to this one.

Also, I see no evidence whatsoever being presented with these claims. Sounds like random speculation, or is it another one of those wacky gut feelings everyone seems to be having? Must be.

Well, you know there is no evidence. It was, in fact, just speculation since Mesden hinted at a role.

That looks an awful lot like bandwagoning to me. But maybe its just me.

It wasn't. Voting for someone after someone else says Hey, maybe this person is Mafia or Cult or Whatever, is how the game goes. Notice how everyone read Ecurt's post, and then decided to vote for GARUD? But no claim of bandwagoning from you then. Were they your mafia/cult buddies, Ol' Dude?

Why is an obvious joke so unsettling?

The bolding was added by you. And anyway, you'd be unsettled to if, whenever a person typed your name, they added a "Mafian" to the end of it, wouldn't you? Besides, I was overracting to be funny.

You seem to know who is a townie all too well.

You say that, then YOUR VERY NEXT QUOTE of me is an explanation of how he is a townie. And if he's in the cult, the mafia wouldn't know that anyway, since you seem to think I'm mafia.

Sure, but wouldn't he then be a prime suspect to be recruited by the cult? I mean, IF I was the cult leader I'd bring in someone unknown who is also basically a confirmed townie. It just seems like a good practice.

Well, yeah.

Now you are using jokes to dismiss someone who seems to know you pretty decently's suspicion and to bat away the suspicion of anyone who might look at this.

Me and Greg are friends. I was joking with a friend. You have friends? Yeah? You know when you joke with them? How fun that is? And I was trying to bat away suspicion. It's called defending yourself.

Again with that nervousness over a joke. Seems to be a reoccuring thing.

Well, yeah. If I acted differently when the same joke was used, I'd be accused of being "erratic" or some other bullshit. I'm surprised you haven't said anything to IC about him constantly using that, as it could be a subtle nudge, trying to convince people that my name alone is indicitive of mafia-ness.

Defending Nikose here. So now you've both defended him, while pointing the finger at someone else (how convienent you could just say that you were defending someone who was away as well), and bandwagonned him. (**NOTE: Not necessarily in that order, mind you**)

I didn't bandwagon with him, as I've stated. And I was defending Nikose, yes, because he wasn't here to do it for himself. I don't see where it's convenient. It's just how it happened.

This was referring to Nikose, still. Seems to be he has a vengance for Arhra attacking Nikose. I wonder why?

Because he WASN'T HERE TO DEFEND HIMSELF. Which had been pointed out at least two other times before that. Remember? When someone says, "Kill him, the guy who's not here to defend himself" that reads as scummy to me. Maybe not you. Or you could be dismissing the actions of a teammate. Oh, and also, you know, that quote you have before this one, makes no sense in context. The one from Greg Williams. Because those were in totally seperate places and I was talking to Cephrir. You know? Seems bad to me, that you had all this "evidence" and then you had to go take posts out of context to further hammer your "point" home. Overdoing it much?

Can't always defend Nikose, eh? But, you know, you can shift the attention to me.

That line about defending Nikose? Nikose wasn't being accused of anything right there. So I don't see your point. That's two.

Sure, maybe you're real slow, or maybe you just don't want to be not voting for him when he gets lynched. I mean, scum would never vote for another scum. Or would they?

Of course they would. What, I have to ask again, is your point. Oh, and sorry for following the good arguments.

Yeah, I noticed that you're all kinds of crazy suspicious about me.

You've given me no reason not to be.

Yeah, it would have been a real problem because you know, you two are such good buddies and all. Can't be having your teammates getting killed, eh? Thats just bad for business.

I'm trying to understand how you think it's bad that I was defending someone who couldn't do it for themselves. I'm...just not getting it. And since a good deal of your argument rests on this, I think you're just pulling something out of your ass to get a townie lynched.

Man, you two play good as a team. Helping each other out. Trying to help each other chill out when one gets riled up.

He thought I was mad and didn't want the mods to take this game away. Where, may I ask, is the fucking bad? And, you know, I don't see why a teammate would mind if another was angry.

Also, being very careful? I wonder why? Wouldn't want to slip up or anything, eh?

HE DIDN'T WANT THE GAME TO BE TAKEN AWAY. That's tree.

Helping to start a nice little bandwagon against a someone you know is a townie?

I never tried to get GARUD lynched.

Aww, you can't be buddies all the time, but wait...

Come now. He was acting suspicious. Right? Right. So yeah. You vote for people who are suspicous. He was here to defend himself this time, so I stopped.

[IHateMakingNames]

Just got back and don't feel like reading, so my vote goes to the majority (I think) for now.

Vote: Roy

[Mr.G.Williams]

I just realized I haven't voted for Roy today. My arguements have already been put foward, and good Mr.O.D.w/ Face has compiled all the points rather neatly. Now, I give you:
Vote: Mylote