eBay banning Death Metal. - Page 4

Captain Hat · 10-16-2006, 09:02 AM

I never said he was retarded. It is quite possible to make a dumb argument without being stupid yourself.

The point was worded to criticise the argument, not the debator. I apologise if this was not immediately clear.

And yes, there have been Christian black and death metal bands, as well as at least one Christian grindcore outfit that I've heard of: hells, one of the guitarists in Deicide is a Catholic.

Furioku · 10-16-2006, 09:21 AM

What the crap. This is bullshit I think and pisses me off that eBay would be willing to pull these thigns off just because a bunch of christians got there panties up in a bunch. Death Metal isn't racist at all. You can go through those bands lyrics and find that none of them are really that racist. Espcially Satyricon who I happen to be a fan of, being the Metalhead I am. Sure some of them may be a little on the satanic side but that still isn't racist and even with that eBay has no right to pull there items just because of this. The world needs more of an open mind to other ideas, beliefs and cultures. :/

Ryanderman · 10-16-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Meister

By the way, wasn't there or isn't there even a Christian black metal band? I know there's quite a number of Christian metal bands, but how is it with the more extreme variations of the genre?

There are a number of Christian black metal bands. At least, they consider themselves black metal, or grindcore, or death metal. I don't know how they stack up against secular metal bands though, since I'm not really a fan of the extreme heavy end of the genre. But I was at a Christian music festival this summer, Cornerstone festival, and there were literally dozens of bands there that consider themselves extremey heavy metal.

OctoberRaven · 10-16-2006, 10:27 AM

Well, I guess if we want good music we'll have to keep off eBay then.

Because black metal is only the beginning. Next it'll be death metal, then power metal (fantasy overtones!!! the christian right will not approve!!!), then all the other subgenres of metal until the closest we have even RESEMBLING metal is Slipknot.

But hey, private buisness, so they can do that.

Luckily eBay is not the only place music can be purchased, so it's not really a big deal when you think about it.

Also, of course there are christian extreme metal bands. Haven't you ever watched Morel Orel? BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN IN HEAVEN!!

Akamaz · 10-16-2006, 10:44 AM

here's a site listing for one of the christian
Thrash Metal/death Metal bands, Vengeance Rising... Christians didn't like them either

Vengeance (Rising) were one of the heaviest bands to exist in the 80's. The big difference between Vengeance and bands like Dark Angel or Slayer was the lyrics, which screamed a message of Christianity. The disc took a lot of criticism from both Christians and non-Christians alike because people were saying that a message of Christianity couldn't be mixed with such extreme music. Regardless of the message, the sheer intensity, aggression and speed of "Human Sacrifice" quickly put Vengeance to the top of my favorites list. The recording itself is a bit sloppy, but no one cared about seamless recordings in the early days of thrash metal. For a no-budget recording, this CD just smokes and remains one of my absolute favorite albums decades later.

http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/vengeance.htm

notasfatasmike · 10-16-2006, 11:37 AM

I'm not so familiar with metal, as i stated in my earlier posts, but I do know of a band called Living Sacrifice who play pretty extreme metal with obvious Christian overtones. ZAO actually might fit into the doom metal genre by some people's mindsets: they always get called a hardcore band, but all of their songs are ridiculously slow for that genre. I do know that there are tons of Christian hardcore and metalcore bands, many of which are very good. Metalcore bands would include Norma Jean, As I Lay Dying, The Chariot, and to a lesser extent, UnderOATH (if you ignore the album They're Only Chasing Safety, they more or less qualify).

Vicious · 10-19-2006, 02:20 PM

Ebay sucks.

Akamaz · 10-19-2006, 02:29 PM

so wait, I can get 67 hits for a band that has music that is illegal to sell in the state of florida, but no death metal allowed?

Dead Phoenix · 10-19-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dposse

http://roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/...wsitemID=58406

I understand the eBay has this thing against racist stuff, but metal is metal. Why don't they censor just about everything in Rap since it says the N word every five seconds? How far does eBays policy go?

There are many people who despise Death Metal. The reason is because Death Metal says words that are "blasphemous" to God, and Christians believe that Death Metal and any of their types are the music of the Devil.

Even though I am Christian, I like to listen to Death metal sometimes, but I prefer Power Metal and classical over Death if I have to say so because my parents really hate any kind of Satanic Metal. I managed to approve Power Metal to them, but they won't be conviced to Death metal music. Maldicion...

Akamaz · 10-19-2006, 02:35 PM

look up Vengeance Rising, they're pretty good if you can find their stuff.

10-16-2006, 09:02 AM	#31
Captain Hat Incoherent Ranter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Bridge of the Mad Hatter Posts: 31	I never said he was retarded. It is quite possible to make a dumb argument without being stupid yourself. The point was worded to criticise the argument, not the debator. I apologise if this was not immediately clear. And yes, there have been Christian black and death metal bands, as well as at least one Christian grindcore outfit that I've heard of: hells, one of the guitarists in Deicide is a Catholic. __________________ "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intelligence has intended us to forgo their use." -Galileo Galilei. Last edited by Captain Hat; 10-16-2006 at 09:35 AM.

10-16-2006, 09:21 AM	#32
Furioku Geekboy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Carolina. Posts: 88	What the crap. This is bullshit I think and pisses me off that eBay would be willing to pull these thigns off just because a bunch of christians got there panties up in a bunch. Death Metal isn't racist at all. You can go through those bands lyrics and find that none of them are really that racist. Espcially Satyricon who I happen to be a fan of, being the Metalhead I am. Sure some of them may be a little on the satanic side but that still isn't racist and even with that eBay has no right to pull there items just because of this. The world needs more of an open mind to other ideas, beliefs and cultures. :/ __________________ The below statement is true. The above statement is false.

10-16-2006, 10:27 AM	#34
OctoberRaven We have custom party of fun! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Inaba... OH CRUD THE FOG Posts: 395	Well, I guess if we want good music we'll have to keep off eBay then. Because black metal is only the beginning. Next it'll be death metal, then power metal (fantasy overtones!!! the christian right will not approve!!!), then all the other subgenres of metal until the closest we have even RESEMBLING metal is Slipknot. But hey, private buisness, so they can do that. Luckily eBay is not the only place music can be purchased, so it's not really a big deal when you think about it. Also, of course there are christian extreme metal bands. Haven't you ever watched Morel Orel? BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN IN HEAVEN!! __________________ "There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged war"- Sun Tzu "OctoberRaven Productions Comics: We're Not Funny! But we try!"

10-16-2006, 11:37 AM	#36
notasfatasmike Oh, jeez, this guy again? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Originally from Minnesota, currently residing in Austria Posts: 248	I'm not so familiar with metal, as i stated in my earlier posts, but I do know of a band called Living Sacrifice who play pretty extreme metal with obvious Christian overtones. ZAO actually might fit into the doom metal genre by some people's mindsets: they always get called a hardcore band, but all of their songs are ridiculously slow for that genre. I do know that there are tons of Christian hardcore and metalcore bands, many of which are very good. Metalcore bands would include Norma Jean, As I Lay Dying, The Chariot, and to a lesser extent, UnderOATH (if you ignore the album They're Only Chasing Safety, they more or less qualify). __________________ ...it sure seems as if style has increased in importance lately. I�ve seen a lot of skinny, black-haired and angst-ridden kids. I guess what I want to see is more fat misanthropists on stage, preferably without hair dye. -Kristofer Steen, former guitarist for Refused Game Freaks - The best source for video game reviews, news, and miscellany...written by two guys named Matt. The Sleeper Hit - my one man band.

10-19-2006, 02:20 PM	#37
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