What makes it work?

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

While normally I'd agree, Magic: The Gathering is also so much more complicated for the same reason.

I mean, you have to decide what rules you're going to play with, especially ban/restricted lists, what Type of play, and even then it becomes a question of money, because if you can drop 500 bucks on a deck you can singlehandedly wipe out any other player who didn't.

I felt that since you'd compliment Magic I'd insult it. Heh.

Yup. For the most part, the only two thingsI can really say against Magic is it takes a long time to learn the basics to be midly good (note: able to play without losing) and its expensive. But really, once you get past the first one, its so much better than almost any other Multiplayer game because there's just so many ways to play and virtually any card can be used. And you aren't running around trying to find a set of armor or killing the same creatures 10000 times for 8 hours straight or switching between two guns and a knife to complete the same objective (god bless BF2 and CS 1.6 though) or etc. etc. Literally I can play one deck three times against 3 different people and always have a different game. Then if I feel even the slightest bit of repetativeness, I just exchange my deck (or my opponent) for one of many others.

And you don't always know what's coming since the players make the decks. I've seen people make decks around TURTLES and FROGS and win. And we won't even go into the pain that is squirrles.

I can't play Halo and be killed by 200 Squirrles made 10x their normal size all attackig me at once. Or Soldiers or Angels or Myrs or Spirits or Pegasi or Saporlings or Goblins or Elves or Zombies or Wasps or Killer Bees.... Its the unparalelled veriety of Magic that makes it the best multiplayer game I have played.

Granted though, I haven't played Dungeons and Dragons but that's the same company.

[Mirai Gen]

There isn't much PVP in DND.

Felt that was worth noting. Other than that, agreed. Ever seen a functional Minotaur or Treefolk or fucking Kobold decks? Because they've killed me before.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

There isn't much PVP in DND.

Unless it was a campaign like I played in a few times before I moved: Gladiator-esque arena combat. Thankfully there was no magic vs. melee crap 'cause that would've been way skewed off balance. It was melee vs. melee or magic vs. magic.

Really made one carefully plan out their character's progression. It was even funner than regular styled campaigns because there was a risk that your character could be killed off from a critical, yes we instilled perma-deaths for this.

Lemme tell ya, the prestige class Reaping Mauler in arena combat is BRUTAL. They scoffed at me when I went to specialize with grappling and unarmed combat as a fighter, showed them a jolly whatfor I did.