wait, CAN a Lightsaber deflect magic missiles? - Page 4

Mirai Gen · 01-18-2007, 04:59 PM

Well his electro-static energy can diffuse energy shields, meanwhile that's one of the few things that lightsabers can't.

So, yeah, plus some. Mr. Dur does indeed win this thread which originally had nothing to do with him.

Patrat · 01-18-2007, 05:01 PM

I can't believe i'm actually joining this conversation....
Ok
Magic Missiles have kinetic engery, or the ability to move, like pretty much everything does. If it is able to inflict physical "I cast you fall down on impact" damage onto somone then it must have some sort of inertia. With that, a lightsaber is pure, high form, kenetic energy, using heat as it's main source of damage. I say this so i can use it for the arguement that a ligtsaber will SOMHOW affect a magic missle. It's just doesn't make sense to say it wouldn't. Energy affects energy, plain and simple. IF by chance a magic missle were able to pass through the lightsaber, via cutting though it or whatnot, i don't know what'd happen, just that it would not what it normally is. It dissapate, it could EXPLODE, abosrb the light saber energy and be even WORSE, it startch itself and yell ow, becuase screw the rules, it's MAGIC, no one knows, nor will we. It's just NOT gunna pass through it and go, "well that was fun"
If i had to guess, it's either disspate(perhaps violently) or loose it's original course and crash itno something else, but it really could be anything.

xravi · 01-18-2007, 09:26 PM

Dur is cool. He would be even cooler if he did not always talk in a whisper though.

LaughingMan42 · 01-18-2007, 10:52 PM

The idea that it is not the Lightsaber itself, but the force powers of the Jedi wielding it that does the deflection is essentially an angle I hadn't really considered before. This view proposes the Lightsaber is merely a tool, which the Jedi has the option of directing the force through in order to more easily achieve the deflection of a projectile.

If this can be considered a canonically accurate representation of the nature of a Jedi's ability to deflect projectile threats, then the object of this entire topic is essentially flawed.

-Jedi use the force to deflect missiles.
-Magic Missiles may or may not be affected by force-based deflection powers of Jedi in any given setting.
-A Jedi might use a Lightsaber to focus his Force-deflection power or he may not.
-A Lightsaber, therefore has no power of it's own to deflect anything.
-With or without Jedi wielder, Lightsabers have no power of their own to deflect a Magic Missile QED

I think that I have, additionally, furthered my understanding of a Jedi and the source of his powers, as well as the role of a Lightsaber in Jedi combat.

Elminster_Amaur · 01-18-2007, 11:49 PM

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-With or without Jedi wielder, Lightsabers have no power of their own deflect a Magic Missile QED

That may be, but I know that in KoTOR II, the Force Deflection power is given a bonus when the Jedi/Sith is wielding a Lightsaber. That indicates that using the Lightsaber to deflect something is easier than doing so without the Lightsaber (that required additional proficency, though I forget the name of the Force Power).

Bells · 01-19-2007, 12:58 AM

oh my god... reading this thread actually makes me feel better about my life

thanks guys!

[monsterkill]ZING![/monsterkill]

aaaah whataheck... just to be on Topic... ish...

Can a lightsaber hurt superman?

Elminster_Amaur · 01-19-2007, 01:04 AM

A red one can, but a yellow lightsaber would give him more powers. XD

Long-Haired Narcissist · 01-19-2007, 01:21 AM

I just came up with the greatest weapon ever, a Kryptonyte infused lightsaber.

LaughingMan42 · 01-19-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LaughingMan42

the Lightsaber is merely a tool, which the Jedi has the option of directing the force through in order to more easily achieve the deflection of a projectile.

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Originally Posted by Elminster_Amaur

That indicates that using the Lightsaber to deflect something is easier than doing so without the Lightsaber

So... you agree with me?

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Originally Posted by Loto

I just came up with the greatest weapon ever, a Kryptonyte infused lightsaber.

Could you use a kryptonyte crystal in the base of the Lightsaber somehow?

Elminster_Amaur · 01-19-2007, 01:48 AM

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So... you agree with me?

...Yes? I must have misread your post. Quite easy to do with dryed out contacts bubbling in yer eyes.

I wish there were a way I could see without contacts or glasses that didn't involve lasers aimed at my eyes.

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I just came up with the greatest weapon ever, a Kryptonyte infused lightsaber.

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Could you use a kryptonyte crystal in the base of the Lightsaber somehow?

Well, since you can put three crystals into a lightsaber, with 1 of them having to be a colored one, and the other two changing the qualities of it, I would assume that you could somehow turn a chunk of Kryptonyte into one of the altering-type crystals. The real question is why would you want to? I mean, what are the chances that a Jedi and Superman are going to cross paths? And beyond that, why would a Jedi and Superman be fighting each other? Even if we're just talking about one of the other Kryptonians, who live close enough to Earth to send baby Supes over before he is even aged beyond infancy (assuming no stasis) and the others who escaped are capable of reaching Earth within Supes' lifetime(stasis wouldn't matter), they're probably soo far away from any Sith or Jedi that it becomes a moot point.

Unless...perhaps the Sith were the ones who destroyed Krypton! There's no telling how far their grasp is...

01-18-2007, 04:59 PM	#31
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Well his electro-static energy can diffuse energy shields, meanwhile that's one of the few things that lightsabers can't. So, yeah, plus some. Mr. Dur does indeed win this thread which originally had nothing to do with him. __________________

01-18-2007, 10:52 PM	#34
LaughingMan42 Goomba Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11	The idea that it is not the Lightsaber itself, but the force powers of the Jedi wielding it that does the deflection is essentially an angle I hadn't really considered before. This view proposes the Lightsaber is merely a tool, which the Jedi has the option of directing the force through in order to more easily achieve the deflection of a projectile. If this can be considered a canonically accurate representation of the nature of a Jedi's ability to deflect projectile threats, then the object of this entire topic is essentially flawed. -Jedi use the force to deflect missiles. -Magic Missiles may or may not be affected by force-based deflection powers of Jedi in any given setting. -A Jedi might use a Lightsaber to focus his Force-deflection power or he may not. -A Lightsaber, therefore has no power of it's own to deflect anything. -With or without Jedi wielder, Lightsabers have no power of their own to deflect a Magic Missile QED I think that I have, additionally, furthered my understanding of a Jedi and the source of his powers, as well as the role of a Lightsaber in Jedi combat. Last edited by LaughingMan42; 01-19-2007 at 01:33 AM.

01-19-2007, 12:58 AM	#36
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01-19-2007, 01:04 AM	#37
Elminster_Amaur Her hands were cold and small. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: My Mind Posts: 2,049	A red one can, but a yellow lightsaber would give him more powers. XD __________________ "It just rubs me the wrong way." -CJ, most likely about non-yaoi porn or something

01-18-2007, 05:01 PM	#32
Patrat D8 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 732	I can't believe i'm actually joining this conversation.... Ok Magic Missiles have kinetic engery, or the ability to move, like pretty much everything does. If it is able to inflict physical "I cast you fall down on impact" damage onto somone then it must have some sort of inertia. With that, a lightsaber is pure, high form, kenetic energy, using heat as it's main source of damage. I say this so i can use it for the arguement that a ligtsaber will SOMHOW affect a magic missle. It's just doesn't make sense to say it wouldn't. Energy affects energy, plain and simple. IF by chance a magic missle were able to pass through the lightsaber, via cutting though it or whatnot, i don't know what'd happen, just that it would not what it normally is. It dissapate, it could EXPLODE, abosrb the light saber energy and be even WORSE, it startch itself and yell ow, becuase screw the rules, it's MAGIC, no one knows, nor will we. It's just NOT gunna pass through it and go, "well that was fun" If i had to guess, it's either disspate(perhaps violently) or loose it's original course and crash itno something else, but it really could be anything.

01-18-2007, 09:26 PM	#33
xravi Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California Posts: 568	Dur is cool. He would be even cooler if he did not always talk in a whisper though.