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Unread 05-31-2007, 02:52 PM   #111
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Not that it matters too much to the voting issues at hand, but B_real's first post in this game states that jailed people can't talk. Can we get a solid ruling on this from either GO to determine which way the rule goes?

Also h4x, I don't remember reading anything about not being able to roleclaim secret roles although I could be wrong on that.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 02:55 PM   #112
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You can't roleclaim until the role says you're supposed to claim them.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 02:56 PM   #113
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Ecurt said that because he was voted for, he can roleclaim.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 02:57 PM   #114
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It was in the sign up thread

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Secret roles: I will initiate secret roles that only the user of this role knows of. THIS ROLE MAY NOT BE ROLE CLAIMED UNLESS THEIR POWER THAT IS USED HAS TO BE KNOWN TO THE TOWN. There is not a specified number of secret roles, but the more people that join, the more possible roles there will be. (ADDITION!) YOU MAY NOT TELL YOUR SECRET ROLE TO A GROUP MEMBER! DON'T DO IT! THE ONLY TIME YOU USE YOUR ROLE IS WHEN YOU GET MY VERIFICATION FIRST! Thank you.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:01 PM   #115
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Not that it matters too much to the voting issues at hand, but B_real's first post in this game states that jailed people can't talk. Can we get a solid ruling on this from either GO to determine which way the rule goes?

Also h4x, I don't remember reading anything about not being able to roleclaim secret roles although I could be wrong on that.
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Prison Guard(s): Can throw a player into jail during the middle of the day (meaning this is a day role). While the player is in Jail, they cannot use thier role, nor can they be targetted by any other role. The Prison Guard(s) do not find out thier captives role. When the Prison guard(s) die, all captives are automatically released from prison if thy haven't done thier time yet.
I don't see anything in there that I need to keep my mouth shut, but if I missed something and I'm not supposed to be posting sorry. Also, I may have hurt us a bit by exposing ecurt. Having an invisible townie would've probably had some perks.
If it mattered, I'd Unvote:36/ecurt until we can figure out where he stands, but I'm in jail so my initial vote doesn't mean jack. We ought to look into whether or not he's a townie or not before murdering the hell out of him.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:01 PM   #116
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Also, LOJ, I'm in jail. Your vote won't count.
When the fuck did that happen?

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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:04 PM   #117
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Aw... I missed the paranoia-fueled 36th guy bandwagon? You guys do all the fun stuff while I'm asleep. I have no reason to disbelieve Ecurt when he says that he is #36, because it fits with what the mods have been saying. I am also open to the possibility of him having a role called 'Spy'. But as for it being a town-aligned role? That's going to take some convincing.

Still, what kind of spy can vote secretly? Voting is a very public affair.

Regarding the Secret Role Rules. "Unless their power that is used has to be known to the town"? Now that's just vague and confusing.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:09 PM   #118
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Sorry for not being more clear the first time Sheb. The first post B_real made in this thread (1st page, 1st post)

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Jail. There will be players who will be thrown into jail DURING the day. This does not, I repeat DOES NOT, mean you're eliminated from the game. It just means your vote for that day has become null, you cannot talk anymore during that day, and any night actions you may have become null. However, don't think its all bad. If you're in jail, you can't be lynched, and you CAN'T be targetted by any night roles. So its a guaranteed "live another day". You are released from the jail at the beginning of the following day after your imprisonment. Also, if someone is jailed, it MAY decrease the amount of votes required for a lynch.
That's what I was referring to although it seems we have been getting conflicting rulings we'll just wait til B_real or Nikose tells us one way or another on that.

With Ecurt roleclaiming there are two options that I see...

1. His role did have a stipulation that he could not roleclaim until he was voted for as he indicated

or

2. He is a scum role that is using this fake roleclaim to throw the heat off of him.

I'm not sure one way or another. As I said earlier his explanation makes sense, but it also does seem logical that if he did have a scum role he could make it up just as well and I'm torn at the moment. I will wait until Ecurt posts again before deciding at least though.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:14 PM   #119
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I am stickin to my vote. Spies cannot generally be trusted..

Those sneaky devils

Vote: Ecurt aka #36.
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Unread 05-31-2007, 03:14 PM   #120
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Looks like I did miss something, sorry about that. I'll just shut up until we have a clear ruling on this.
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