Who Will Win?

[42PETUNIAS]

It seems my knowlege of Unus is incomplete. I've only read his first appearance, where his powers weren't really unstable, and I didn't realize he appeared more than that. I guess I'm not sure about my vote then.

[ArlanKels]

Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS

It seems my knowlege of Unus is incomplete. I've only read his first appearance, where his powers weren't really unstable, and I didn't realize he appeared more than that. I guess I'm not sure about my vote then.

Well...the problem is that his original ability was too powerful.

Being completely immune to attack? No matter what type it is?
So a lot of the super powerful badguys got toned down...Juggernaut for instance, Unus, the Blob is no longer empowered(Boo hiss), Quicksilver got shifted into something weird..

[OctoberRaven]

Well since it's been more than a day here's a new one...

The Jigsaw Killer (from the Saw movies) vs Yagami Light (from Death Note), battle of the masterminds.

[ArlanKels]

Jigsaw Killer would win if he managed to place Yagami into one of his traps. However, given the intelligence of Light it's doubtful that he'd fall into one of those traps.

Do they ever explain in the movies how people end up in the traps? Or do they just magically show up there?

[Lord of Joshelplex]

Pretty sure they just are there.

[OctoberRaven]

Actually, they get kidnapped out of the blue. That's how it's always been done in the movies.

[ArlanKels]

Originally Posted by OctoberRaven

Actually, they get kidnapped out of the blue. That's how it's always been done in the movies.

See, I'm not certain Light can be kidnapped. Thus Jigsaw could never place him in a trap. Therein making it so that Light would not be able to lose this match.
And given that he's so secretive and super special that nobody even knows who he is, then that just makes it so darn impossible for Jigsaw to do more than flail.

Heck...Light would probably anticipate he was going to be kidnapped and have a fake Light set up to get kidnapped, with some inserted sort of tracking device therein making it so he could locate where Jigsaw is.

Cause he's Light. And that's what he does.
Go L, it's your birthday.

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by ArlanKels

Cause he's Light. And that's what he does.
Go L, it's your birthday.

Light is not L, Light is Kira.

Stalemate, maybe Jigsaw, unfortunately that's how its gonna work out. Light needs to know someones real name to kill them. Light having never met Jiggsaw before would attempt to call Misa or someone else with Shinigami eyes to identify Jiggsaw's real name. However Light would have no ideal where he is been drugged to would have no way to guide Misa. Plus Jiggsaw rarely ever meets his victims in person. Since Light has no way of knowing Jiggsaw's real name he cannot kill him. However Jiggsaw never kills his victims directly, instead he alwas offers them a way out of his traps that requires them to physically harm themselves or someone else. Light being a cold-hearted bastard and able to best Jiggsaw at any game of logic, would work his way out of all Jigsaw's deathtraps at great personal injury, but he lives none the less. The only way Jiggsaw would ever win is if Light dies of blood loss or something after he's been severly burned, cut out both his eyes, nose, arms, legs, etc.

The other possible outcome is then Light suspects Jiggsaw's plan to kidnapp him and kills all the would-be kidnappers (Jiggsaw never personally abducted his victims.) And Light goes on living, Jiggsaw goes on killing people.

The only way I could see Light winning this is if he had help from someone with the Shinigami's Eyes (lets go with Misa for this example), and Jiggsaw pulled a repeat of the original saw ending. Misa would immeadiately see the random body on the floor isn't dead (has time remaining) tell Light his real name, Light would pull out a piece of the Deathnote hidden in his boxers, write his name with the world's smallest pencil/pen/blood/pencil shavings.

[OctoberRaven]

Okay, as it's been more than a day, I'm judging for Jigsaw on this one.

The major fault in Arlan's theory is that it's only effective if Light is aware Jigsaw is going to try and kidnap him. Jigsaw studies his targets for months and thus has a lot of time to prepare himself.

[ArlanKels]

Light isn't L? Durnit.


how about this:

Apocalypse vs Doomsday