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Unread 08-19-2008, 01:34 PM   #1221
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Why the metaphor we create is an enormous dude in a freaktastic purple hat is anybody's guess.
As opposed to a pink leprechaun with a freaky purple tophat with a big letter 'P' on it?
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Unread 08-20-2008, 10:18 PM   #1222
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Otherkin vs Otakukin
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Unread 08-21-2008, 12:55 AM   #1223
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In a fight of being less retarded:

Otherkin believe that they contain the souls of faeries or gods or dragons or other beings that other religions throughout the years have placed as gods. This makes them only marginally more crazy than those religions, as they're just taking those religions + reincarnation + making themselves special.

Otakukin believe they're the reincarnation of fictonal characters. This is patently ridiculous. I mean, so do otherkin, but otakukin don't even get to claim entire religions of people were ALSO crazy enough to believe in those fictional characters.

Otherkin win.

In a brawl between the two groups--otherkin are mostly wiccans and new-age pagans who practice hippy peacenik shit. Otakukin are just really bad otaku.

This means that otakukin would probably be more capable of fighting, what with some of them taking up kendo and shit to be more like their 'souls', but they'd be vastly outnumbered by the peace loving hippies.

I'm going to say the otherkin win again, but it's a pyrrhic victory, with the otherkin suffering far greater casualties.

If each group actually HAD the powers of their souls?

Well otherkin have fae, celestial dragons, european dragons, nymphs, gods, etc. So basically they're all nigh-godlike in such a situation.

Otakukin have a lot of Sephiroths and Gokus and Kujas and Inuyashas, but they also have a lot of people that really aren't that powerful, or who aren't that powerful without their giant mecha. They're also still vastly outnumbered, and would probably suffer from a lot of infighting (the Gokus fighting the Sephiroths, for instance).

Another victory for the Otherkin. This one much more sound than the last, but still they suffer greater casualties, due to the one or two Gokus that aren't too busy fighting the otakukin villains.
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Unread 08-21-2008, 05:33 PM   #1224
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Unread 08-21-2008, 07:09 PM   #1225
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I just watched Fight Club again and an idea came to mind.

"Tyler Durden" vs "Keyser Soze"

Battle of the mindfuck protagonist/antagonists. For the point of the battle let's say they don't know anything about each other except urban legend and are fighting because somehow they pissed each other off. They're both in the same city and can't leave it.
Keyser Soze's other self is entirely a facade whereas Tyler's other self is actually a separate personality which he doesn't directly control. Thus (given the stipulation that two only know each other by reputation) Keyser has an advantage here in terms of gaining people's trust and working his way into their confidence.

Although Tyler does have an advantage in terms of being plain fucking crazy. There's every possibility Keyser will lay all manner of brilliant schemes which Tyler will blow apart just because they happen to be in the vicinity of something else he was planning to blow up.
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Unread 08-21-2008, 11:08 PM   #1226
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Interesting Battle Royale:

The United States VS the European Union VS China VS Russia

Assumptions:

No nuclear weapons function properly. This is conventional warfare only.
This is a four way battle royale in which makeshift alliances can be made or broken between the participants at will, but the battle doesn't end until only one faction remains.
All nations not listed (any nation not named China, the United States, Russia, or not in the European Union) are considered neutral nonparticipants and effectively disregarded.
(Note: I purposefully left Japan off this list to avoid the joke "Japan wins due to mechanized robot armies of DOOM!" comments. Also, Canada's out, sorry if that offends all the Canadians in the audience, but I limited this to the four strongest global forces to be reckoned with. Consider North Korea and South Korea in a perpetual stalemate with each other, too.)
The globalized economic system has shut down: no one's trading with each other anymore.
While political governance is a factor (ie, China is authoritarian and single-party, the United States is a federalized democratic republic,) in this hypothetical situation the entirety of every country's populace is "for the war." (Disregard the possibility of dissent. Every faction's political parties and the vast majority of their populations view the war as completely justified for its duration.)
A faction's government and infrastructure must be reasonably eliminated: just "taking the enemy's capital" doesn't count. Guerilla warfare should be anticipated as a factor in the event of all land occupations. There's no "time limit" here, so you can speculate it'd take years, decades or generations to resolve itself.
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Unread 08-21-2008, 11:29 PM   #1227
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Otherkin believe that they contain the souls of faeries or gods or dragons or other beings that other religions throughout the years have placed as gods.

[...]

Otakukin believe they're the reincarnation of fictonal characters.

...

I...

What, seriously?


*refuses to believe anyone is that stupid*

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Unread 08-22-2008, 12:03 AM   #1228
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Unread 08-22-2008, 07:34 PM   #1229
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Interesting Battle Royale:

The United States VS the European Union VS China VS Russia

Assumptions:

No nuclear weapons function properly. This is conventional warfare only.
This is a four way battle royale in which makeshift alliances can be made or broken between the participants at will, but the battle doesn't end until only one faction remains.
All nations not listed (any nation not named China, the United States, Russia, or not in the European Union) are considered neutral nonparticipants and effectively disregarded.
(Note: I purposefully left Japan off this list to avoid the joke "Japan wins due to mechanized robot armies of DOOM!" comments. Also, Canada's out, sorry if that offends all the Canadians in the audience, but I limited this to the four strongest global forces to be reckoned with. Consider North Korea and South Korea in a perpetual stalemate with each other, too.)
The globalized economic system has shut down: no one's trading with each other anymore.
While political governance is a factor (ie, China is authoritarian and single-party, the United States is a federalized democratic republic,) in this hypothetical situation the entirety of every country's populace is "for the war." (Disregard the possibility of dissent. Every faction's political parties and the vast majority of their populations view the war as completely justified for its duration.)
A faction's government and infrastructure must be reasonably eliminated: just "taking the enemy's capital" doesn't count. Guerilla warfare should be anticipated as a factor in the event of all land occupations. There's no "time limit" here, so you can speculate it'd take years, decades or generations to resolve itself.
I"m pretty sure our military is bigger than all those other nations' militaries by a pretty wide margin. Take away nukes and we've still probably got enough daisycutters and MOABs to level the other guys in fairly short order.
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Unread 08-23-2008, 03:41 AM   #1230
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Interesting Battle Royale:

The United States VS the European Union VS China VS Russia

Assumptions:

No nuclear weapons function properly. This is conventional warfare only.
This is a four way battle royale in which makeshift alliances can be made or broken between the participants at will, but the battle doesn't end until only one faction remains.
All nations not listed (any nation not named China, the United States, Russia, or not in the European Union) are considered neutral nonparticipants and effectively disregarded.
(Note: I purposefully left Japan off this list to avoid the joke "Japan wins due to mechanized robot armies of DOOM!" comments. Also, Canada's out, sorry if that offends all the Canadians in the audience, but I limited this to the four strongest global forces to be reckoned with. Consider North Korea and South Korea in a perpetual stalemate with each other, too.)
The globalized economic system has shut down: no one's trading with each other anymore.
While political governance is a factor (ie, China is authoritarian and single-party, the United States is a federalized democratic republic,) in this hypothetical situation the entirety of every country's populace is "for the war." (Disregard the possibility of dissent. Every faction's political parties and the vast majority of their populations view the war as completely justified for its duration.)
A faction's government and infrastructure must be reasonably eliminated: just "taking the enemy's capital" doesn't count. Guerilla warfare should be anticipated as a factor in the event of all land occupations. There's no "time limit" here, so you can speculate it'd take years, decades or generations to resolve itself.
I'd go with either China or the US.
I'd see the US allying with EU and Russia going with China. The EU would probably be the main battleground between US and Chinese-Russian forces, wiping them (EU) out. Then it would come down to if the US can fight off the Chinese and Russians (due to naval/air superiority, and using that to destroy the others' ability to fight) or whether they can successfully use Alaska or northern Canada to get troops into the US. If the US can fight them off and keep them from bombing the hell of the mainland, we win. However, if they get around all that, it turns into China v. Russia and Russia would be too banged up to win that (also, as far as I know, all the successful invasions of Russia have been from central Asia), then win goes to China.
And accounting for guerilla warfare, I'd say the Chinese would win over that more easily than the US would - we'd actually try to get the guerillas to re-join society, the Chinese would most likely just burn the regions that are causing troubles to the ground.
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