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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:02 AM   #11
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So you give me a wall of opinions, ask me to take them as facts and i'm being impervious?

Also @Satan's Onion>

As far as Atlus stating that it takes Sexuality (mostly in the Persona series) as a serious issue in their games, i'm not saying that THIS is opinion, i never saw that but i have no reason to not believe either, but again, you guys seem to take it as malice or ill intent, why can't it be a different culture at play or just a opinion you don't agree with? Because it sells? Because it has marketing behind it?

Mind you, i never played the persona games... i played a bit of the PSX ones, but just one of them was in English and i never really got past the first hours, i played a bit of 2 and 3 on the PSP but i have yet to dwelve much farther into it... the only thing i know of Naoto is what wikipedia tells me and THERE i so no evil. Also from what i understand, Catherine had no problem with it's Transgender character, so this seems totally focused on persona.

Japan has a certain view on the subjects of Sexuality the places of men and women in society and many other things that more often than not they translate into their Media, be it anime, movies, manga or games... not everything is stuff i agree with, but i don't take it as some sort of malignant force that must be stopped.

There is a difference between calling for a Boycott and simply not supporting a brand, and i do try to do some reading up on the subject here as not to be completely blind in the crossfire... which led me to this

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10193

[[ EDIT: Forgot this link also
http://www.reddit.com/r/transgender/...needs_to_stop/ ]]


And from what i understand, the problem is just a badly done portrait of Transgender people on games... at least to my mind, instead of making a pointless shit storm with Boycotts and spin and buzzwords extravaganza, why not take a positive approach to the subject? Instead of trying to invoke some sort of virtual Lynch mob to hurt the bottom line of the company (which still for me comes with some really poorly aimed rage) why not open the discussion and promote a positive feedback and awareness of how LGBT characters can properly be portrait in the media? As far as i'm aware, not only you have local tendencies and customs going into the making of the game, but sometimes you also have people with little to no awareness of a subject, trying to handle it into a story... Video games can be good at broad strokes of a story, but they don't always read in the best terms when they are going into any specifics... And again, ATLUS USA only handled Localization of the title...

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If you try to target every company where these problems are prevalent, then you spread yourself too thin and risk getting nothing accomplished.
Then focus on the theme not on the company. Focusing on the theme makes sense, focusing on the company is less effective and arguably makes less sense.


EDIT EDIT 2:

Y'know i would probably delete my whole post if i didn't thought it would be rude, as i'm sure some of you might have already seen it, so i'll just let it here... point being that while looking around to try to at least understand your points a bit better i came across this... and THIS is what i'm talking about, a proper way to present a view that has enlightened me a bit about the issue. And if you haven't seen it, i suggest the read

http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=6088

i still think the Boycott idea is Ragecentric and misguided, but now at least i have a better grasp of what you guys are talking about.... i still say that is better and more logical to battle the issue than the company, and it can be done in a positive manner instead of a destructive one.
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