Another Big Big Thread of Religious Discussion

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Conscience falls under instincts, reason or desires, I think.

It's not really "out there" unless you interpret this as meaning that conscience somehow contains such a "list" of moral guidelines as matching a religion's, and/or that conscience actually naturally guides toward a religion. Basically, if you're saying that conscience reflects the divine edicts of the generic Judeo-Christian God, it's "out there" alright, since it does seem quite contrary to experience. To say the least.

Of you meant it in the exact opposite way, that the only necessary (in regards to divine judgment) moral principles, and the only necessary thing overall, are contained in the conscience as can be observed (without needing to assume that the vast majority of humans having lived are actively repressing specifically Judeo-Christian beeps of their conscience), then it's far from 'out there' (there is such a thing as social instincts.)

I mean, in the context of talking about supernatural things. It's all relative. Of course, it does seem to run contrary to most of Christian theology, but that's kind of necessary for it to make sense.

Making sense might be something that this post doesn't do, I'm not sure.