Mafia: NPF edition

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by Sithdarth

I know you are an aggressive player but damn that was fast. Also, with so many threats one would think in this game more than any other every townie counts. Although with the greater number of anti-town roles you do have a better chance of hitting an anti-town role.

As for the devil's advocate thing how was I supposed to respond to that post? I mean if we all just agreed with it right off the bat we'd be pretty much stuck with nothing to talk about. Also, even if we assumed there was at least one vet in the mafia it doesn't really help us at all for a few reasons. First, we don't no the number of vets that are mafia so if we just focused on vets for the moment some other only marginally suspicious activities from non-vet mafiates might go unnoticed. Second, a newb mafiate can be more dangerous than a vet mafiate as it seems if they do slip up any vet mafiates will axe them with a vote; see catlover in the last game. That's great for shifting focus off people at least for some of the less aggressive players and can make getting a majority vote harder. Of course that's all assuming the initial assumption was correct.

Of course all points are now moot because we are now actually discussing things in a logical framework that would lead somewhere. For instance, you think I'm mafiate because you precieved me attempting to stall the game; you of course also assuming me to be a strong player(or so I assume). However, one might also assume that given my assumed apptitude I'd no better than to play that card, but all that's just going to go in circles. So we'll leave this as a point against me.

Now I could assume that your hasty vote is to get someone who has proven himself to be adept at hiding himself well to expose himself. After all I did do a rather decent job convincing even the Mafiate I was of great importance to the town in the last game despite my role. So yes I'm probably a person to keep and eye on as I have demonstrated potential to be dangerous. Has have you Mesden which you yourself freely admit.

Although, that vote could also be a mafiate attempt to get a precieved strong player out of the game without wasting a night action. After all if anyone else with a townie night role happens to think I'd be worth having around then I might be a hard target to get at. Frankly I'd rather not be protected from night hits but its not up to me in any case.

You know what one word strikes me through all of this?

Assume.

I could assume everything, Sith. I could assume that you're a townie, I could assume this and that.

Assumption, when there's nothing to assume upon, is COMPLETELY and without a doubt pointless and baseless no matter what.

You took on the role of the antagonist, correct? Seems that way. Guess what I've always been? I'm the most protagonistic player you'll ever see.

It's in nature that we word it out and one of the only ways to get people to look at this with much thought is it to be between strong players and if there are high stakes.

For example, voting.

Some might see this as brash, but I'm RARELY going to FOS, only in the case that my vote is already taken and I want to point something else out. As FOS is nearly completely useless in this case and many more. (There's no real suspicion here so using a term that implies it is pointless.)

Some may recall how I got onto B_Real's case about not FOSing me but straight voting and see me as hypocritical, but B_Real had somewhat baseful suspicion and and FOS would be what was called for.

All that said and done I think my initial statement had the desired effect in that we actually have somewhere to go now. As well as firmer logical footing to proceed from and thereby a better chance of finding an actual threat. I stand by my previous actions and offer this last exchange of proof of its validity and worth.

Yup, somewhere to go. This coming from the antagonist facing off against the protagonist. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Does to me. But I'll agree the point if only for the fact that the game does need to move.