Mafia: NPF edition

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by Sithdarth

And I've already given example after example about just what I meant by that and how I see it effecting the game and frankly I'm done with it. After everything I've said you always repeat like just saying it over and over is going to make it true. We know you don't agree with it a counter point would be nice and not to the intiatial statement but to everything after it. After all I can't be expected to fully explain every detail of my thought process in my first few posts on the subject.


See above. I've fully explained what I meant and how I would act. You've ignored it and went straight back to the intial statement like its a fact I can disprove. Well its not its pretty much an opinion with factual bits. True numbers do win the game but you've repeatedly ignored all attempts at me explaining myself frankly its getting old and rude. Pressure is good to a point but this is getting to be to much. There are no more answers for you here.

Alright, I'll leave the point be. It is your play style and I'd be a hypocrite just to call you wrong for doing it. Most of this has been a test to see if you could be decisive enough when it matters(Like being under pressure ).

No see I disagreed with you very definition of bandwagoning and even given your definition waiting as long as possible isn't definetaly without exception bandwagoning.

I don't see where there is to disagree on its definition. You're going to wait until the end and go along with the most believeable argument? That's a badnwagon vote if I could define it, Sith. You need to form your opinion before it's too late. And we'll get to why...

What about after the lynch hmm?

By then the person is, um, dead? Right? Just making sure here. Because, you know, it's a bit too late to judge your actions at that point because they're already forsaken

Its not like everything I said before a vote suddenly disappears after the vote. You should know that better than anyone so that gives me pause to think about your motivation.

Again, you don't give them time to be able to evaluate you BEFORE THE PERSON DIES! For someone so keen to the slow and steady, waiting for the last second to throw their vote in, without enough time to matter to let others consider it, seems hasty to me.

Why does my reasoning and stuff suddenly change when I put that little bit of bold text up? Just because I don't vote doesn't mean I won't be presenting cases. Why should I vote then change me mind and unvote then perhaps vote again when I can do that all in my head without that little bold text? If I wait till the last minute guess what all view points that could be expressed will have been expressed. Now you could think I'm just not going to say anything but I already stated a few times how I'll be pointing out flaws on bothsides. I'll add to that now with I'll also be presenting my own cases I didn't think I needed to say that though. I'd be doing that regardless of those little bolded text section with vote by them.

But with the vote may come flaws on your part. Votes create pressure and demand response. Make you focus more as it puts more on the line. That little bolding does make a difference, whether you believe it or not.

Ok so I said out for blood, bad choice of words, but you've done similar to me and I'd wager you haven't worded everything as well as you'd like. Heck you just did it up there with the whole bandwagoning thing. It could be an honest mistake and it couldn't. Its no reason to call a person an outright liar.

Yeah, words are hard to put together perfectly all the time, though I still stand by my bandwagoning point.

Again how is it that people magically can't pick apart me reasons after the lynch? This is perhaps the largest logical fallacy I've seen you make. There is seriously no logic there.

Because when someone's life is on the line, it's better to get the points out of the way first, so they don't lose their life in vain because you didn't want to vote yet. It's not a fallacy, because there's that one major difference. That one's life. For someone who preached the similar earlier, you're sure as heck not abiding now.

Lives ARE important, even if they can be sacrificed for the good at times.

Mafai smokescreen? I'd say the chances are good at least in part. You above all else should know that you need to take your time and devote your full attention to the game. Heck we just went over the importance of wording with Roy. Why would you suddenly do something so dangerous? This way you can just play off anything I manage to pick out as you being distracted.

I know, I know. I'm sorry, but there are times when I feel the need to respond even when I'm busy. Forgive me or not, I like to give fast answers to give people more time to think.

Hey while we are on mafia smoke screens this whole exchange between me and you is another good one. Accusations are a great way to focuse attention on someone. Along with that is when responding to accusations it gives you lots of material to reword and play with. Above that it makes your target look defensive and thus guilty. So now I really really suspect you of something.

Go ahead and suspect. I'm drilling you for fun, answers and to have a catalyst in the game. EVERYTHING can be a smokescreen, you know that, right? Stating a smokescreen can be a smokescreen and so on and so forth. A big twisted plan that may never stop, but you know it does at one point and you'll never know where.

Add to that you potentially asked that cult question to make it seem like you didn't know if the cult could act and thus deflect attention from you potentially being the cult leader.

I seriously THOUGHT the CL got their turn on night one, as that parts them from the rest of the town, instead of just being as perfectly in the dark as normal townies. You're taking something that NO ONE is sure of, aside from one maybe two(If the CL got to draft) people, Sith.

You're saying that my LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IS A WEAPON NOW. That's borderlining ignorant and has no backing...

I'm still waiting for Garud to answer me on what happened on night one and maybe bold text will get his attention, because it's becoming very vital and he ignored me completely the first time.

You know what I'm going to make you happy and vote for someone. So here goes: Vote:Mesden

Hooray? I was going to remove my vote about halfway down this thing, but then you started throwing out that everything I'm doing must be an evil veil of scumminess, where as any single little thing can be that in this game.

Heck, I'd unvote you now, but you seem to be in the kind of mindset that would turn that into, "It's a veil! She's unvoting herself just to look good! Scum!"

And then you can turn that into, "She's keeping her vote on me too look calm under pressure with how she just stated what she said!"

And you can shape that into, "She's saying that..."

See my point here?

Want me to throw some examples out, then ask, as this is just bordering ignorant if it weren't for the fact that everything's possible.