The Big Big Thread of Religious Discussion

[phil_]

Hopfully helpful imput! Locke, here's a troll doing Sudoku, taken from that nifty short story you linked to. Spoilers will continue until I move on to my other imput, because I don't want to spoil the pattern of the story. Go read it, folks, if not for this argument, then for your enjoyment.

The Cosmic AC surrounded them but not in space. Not a fragment of it was in space. It was in hyperspace and made of something that was neither matter nor energy. The question of its size and nature no longer had meaning in any terms that Man could comprehend.

So, Man can no longer understand the manner of the Cosmic AC's existance. If they were capable of understanding, the Cosmic AC could have explained it to them. But the Cosmic AC presumably understands the way it exists. The logistics of its existance are beyond man, but known to itself.

This is what folks would like to convey when they speak of God's logic. God makes sense to himself, but the way he exists and operates can't be fully understood by humans, even if he tried to spell it out for us. It can only be understood by an almighty being who exists outside reality. That understanding is divine logic.

Now, probably unhelpful critisicm. I too have had religious experiences, notasfatasmike. I didn't even use drugs. But I don't consider them proof of God's existence. Self-hypnotic suggestion, wishful thinking, youthful optimism (like I ever had that); maybe one of those. But I no longer consider those feelings God's presence. But, yeah, non-believer, had those experiences, doesn't convince me.