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Originally Posted by B_real_shadows

I'm gonna second that part Loki said about us proving ourselves. And again, God's not looking for us to be perfect.

The same could be said about your "blatant series of assumptions" that God isn't omnipotent or omniscient or all loving. As far as I'm concerned, If God wasn't all Loving, there wouldn't be a purgatory, nor would there be a means for us to have our sins absolved, and Jesus wouldn't have happened. If God wasn't Omnipotent there wouldn't be a virgin Mary, parting of the sea, the plagues, passover, again Jesus. If God wasn't Omniscient, then there would be no prophets or scriptures fortelling of the comming of Christ.

And its not necessarily that if you're X branch of Christianity you're doomed to hell. Hell, even Jews and Muslims and Buddhists ect. (Minus Satanists) have a chance to go to heaven if they lead even half decent lives.

And then you also have your metally ill priests/people that tell you who goes to heaven and hell. That is not their call to make. Yes we can make our own judgements and take a guess. But it is not our place to judge others and their destination. The best we can do is make someone into a saint.

And remember just because thier a priest doesn't mean thier automatically high and mighty. Remember the Priests in NY that abused little Children? Just goes to show that even the people who have power to influence the people in their church aren't perfect.

And all of this comes up to as why the hell would an all loving creator place us in this game of his? I mean, I don't know about you, but that sounds ungratefully bigotted and that he is doing this for his amusement or for, what, I have no clue! It's sadistic, plain and simple.

Just because God throws out little miracles (Long old ones that haven't been proven, if you're gonna put the Atheist viewpoint in there) that means he 'loves' us? If he loved us, he wouldn't place millions upon millions of people in states of worldly agony, outside of any christian contact and therefore unable to be christian. I don't see how he ignores this entire majority of the world, only to place his incomprehensible LOVE for all of us in the hands of nothing but Europeans and branches of the Middle East in the form of several Prophets who go out to contradict themselves at every passing turn and preach horrible ethics of punishment that the Bible preaches...and...

You know, it just doesn't come off as some actual caring being. Or rather, not all loving.