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Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS

Care to give an example or quote from the bible? I don't know about anybody else, but I've never heard about this as a christian thing, so some evidence in the bible would make it a little more believable for me. Also, that seems like the same logic that leads to islamic suicide bombers killing themselves to get much better treatment in heaven. (I think someone mentioned something about them getting 70-something virgins/peas when they went to heaven)

Sure thing.

First of all there's the parables the tenants. Each tenant has a different award given to them. Also Jesus did the one who puts himself last shall be first, and he who puts himself first shall be last. That would imply that not everybody in heaven is given the same rank, so to speak.


For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
—1 Corinthians 3:11-15

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
—2 Corinthians 5:10

I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
—Matthew 12:36-37

These verses are the biggies for this. "If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire." I think it seems pretty clear that the serial killer who comes to Christ at the last moment gets to heaven, but by the skin of his teeth so to speak..

"each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil." Also implies that your reward/punishment is relative to the good or evil you do on Earth.

Many Christians ignore verses like this and think that salvation is the start all and end all. Things put forward in the New Testament, which very few verses actually refer to the afterlife, beg to differ. I'm not surprised you've never heard of it.