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Unread 01-18-2007, 04:10 AM   #1
LaughingMan42
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Default wait, CAN a Lightsaber deflect magic missiles?

I don't know about you all, but when I read Sosa's news post about how Brain was demonstrating his great need of INT enchanted items when he suggested a Lightsaber could deflect a magic missile, well I was bursting at the seems to discover the truth concerning the Jedi master's weapon's effects on this "never-miss" projectile of Arcane origin. (Run on sentence For the WIN!)

So anyway, I punched into google, and was unsurprised that that issue had already been resolved by various groups, to varying conclusions.

What was surprising was that a the front page results included a group that had some sci-fi leanings, where the poster included a quote in the signature:

"So what you’re asking is “can a lightsaber block a magic missile?” The answer is no. A magic missile always hits its target. Period. The Jedi would move to block the missile, the missile would move, the Jedi would move to intercept again, the missile would move again, etc. Eventually the Jedi would tire or make a mistake and that’s when the Magic Missile would hit." -- Red Mage"(looking at that now, being signed 'Red Mage' this quote may have an origin in Sosa's old column, and I would therefore only be embarrassing myself posting this to the forums here. Can anyone confirm this is a quote from "Twinkin' Out with Red Mage"?)

The interesting part is that these are (assertably) Sci-Fi fans, an ethnic group one can easily picture worshiping before a Jedi shrine, complete with Lightsaber mounted upon its Holy visage. These Sci-Fi fan(atics) have downplayed the ability of a Lightsaber to deflect a Magic Missile, either among themselves, or by agreeing with the opinion of a third party (e.g. Sosa) in the belief that the Arcane anomaly is just as unbeatable as it purports to be.

On the other hand, another front page result which i would pin as definitely fantasy originated has simply assimilated the lightsaber into the ranks known as magic weaponry, and properly endowed it with properties equivalent to those displayed in the Sci-Fi canon. (though i personally believe 2d6+3 to be on the low side for Lightsaber damage)
These properties include the effects of attempting to block a magic missile:

"A trained mystic knight (one who has acquired a proficiency) can perform many special feats with a lightsaber. Among the more impressive of these is missile deflection. With a successful Wisdom check, any small magical or non-magical missiles can be deflected, including the magic missile spell."

When I saw these two differing accounts, I immediately rushed to the 8-bit theater forums, secure in the knowledge that I would find a heated discussion concerning the exact utility of a Lightsaber wielded by a skilled user when he is said wielder is facing down an approaching Magic Missile, and the results, down to specific nit-dismembering detail of the event.

Imagine my surprise when, upon scouring the forums and utilizing the search feature, no such heated debate was discovered!

So I took it upon myself to create this very topic, even going to the lengths of creating an actual account and reading through those really very nice rules and assenting to abide by them.

I'm sure that by this point in the post, those of you who actuality bothered reading this far into it, wish very much I hadn't bothered, or at least wish there was a clause in those rules concerning lengthy, and unorthodoxly explicit posts with so very much use of italics.

In any case, if Sosa's whole point was that he had expounded on the matter in the "Twinkin' Out with Red Mage" column on this very site, then he has made a grave tactical error. If he means to suggest that the rulings on RPG mechanics that he fervently espoused in that column have any merit in a discussion of actualized RPG mechanics, then he will have to account for the supposed utility of febreeze in various RPG combat situations.The topic of Febreeze came up many times in that Column, and i'm sure I don't have to remind you of the ridiculous assertions made by all parties on that account.

So my point is:
(Dear Red Mage,)
Can a lightsaber deflect a Magic missile?

Conflicting answers found through Google:
-The Sci-Fi nerds say 'No, Red Mage said they can't'
-The Fantasy RPG nerds say 'Yes, as long as the Lightsaber is magic too'
-and this Sosa guy says 'Brian says they can, and he's "smelly" so i'm going to say that only a Shield spell can block a Magic Missile'

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