Another Big Big Thread of Religious Discussion

[Serenity]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Swordchucks

Well, most of us mere mortals can't claim to be 100% certain of anything, seemingly unlike yourself.

Outside of the fact that most of what you said was totally wrong, I think you painted yourself out to be one of those intolerant, know-it-all types who thinks he has a better grasp on the universe than the rest of us.

Namely, you were acting like what I had just said was a fool.

Excellent argument.

Originally Posted by I_Like_Swordchucks

I don't claim to be able to prove or disprove anything... I believe what I believe, and I point out how nobody knows anything for certain. If you were wise, you'd do the same.

Oh, I'm well aware of the whole "nobody knows anything for certain" stuff. Perhaps you should consider a little concept called "reasonable doubt" versus "unreasonable doubt". It's, you know, that thing that allows humans to act vaguely like there's an objective reality.

Originally Posted by I_Like_Swordchucks

Oh, and before you go talking about abiogenesis, you might want to actually know what you're talking about. Life is a smidgen more complicated than repeating hydrocarbons, and that catalyst you referred to is an enzyme - something which only comes from other living things. As far as we know it, life requires life. Its not to say it can't be discovered otherwise, but then again, I can say the same thing for God.

Yes, modern cells can't be created suddenly. But there is more that can self-replicate other than enzymes - ribozymes. Jeez, it took three and a half seconds on wikipedia to find that.

Almost mythical? That right there invalidates your point, because if "almost," then there's a possibility they were real, had a queen, and Alexander the Great slept with her.

It's also possible that I slept with the queen of the Amazons, and only slightly less likely.

I mean, are you really trying to disprove my point by pointing out that it's possible that Alexander the Great did it with the queen of the Amazons? Seriously?

Like, what do you mean by other documents? And no, they're not zero, that's an arrogant statement to make because it presumes you know the whole of human history, including what every human being capable of writing was writing about around the time of Jesus's miracles.

Let me rephrase that for you, just in case I was previously unclear: Why does no one besides the Bible mention this, for example?

Originally Posted by Matthew 27:51-54

At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son[e] of God!"

You have a few good points but they're buried under mounds of--ironically, enough, all things considered--holier than thou douchebaggery. No one is going to bother noticing or seriously considering your points so long as you're being a dick about it. Same was as religious zealots piss us off with their "I'm right, and that's it times infinity," you're acting the same way but coming from MY camp, which I find, honestly, offensive.

I think you may want to rephrase this...

Right now, it seems to read that you're saying that having actual points but stating them rudely and "I'm right times infinity" are the same.