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Unread 01-01-2008, 08:49 PM   #24
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Well that thread's closed (and I missed it, damn college not letting me access the nuklear power domain), and what I really want to discuss is the organizations behind gun politics, not the laws themselves. As well as making sure that more people learn for themselves the actaully facts of the issues, instead of being fed mountains of steaming dog crap...so maybe discussion wasn't the best place for this thread, as I was more interested in a 'public service message' type post. But hey, we already have an ok discussion going, which is not wholey unrelated to what I was originally intending.

Anyways, Krylo's right int hat mandating gun ownership is also bad. The idea is that someone can own and carry a firearm for defense, target shooting, hunting, shooting evil tree rat bastards, preparing for the zombie apocalypse, whatever; if they want to. Private gun ownership goes FAR beyound the issue of the second amendment, among the other rights I elaborated were affected, the right to property ownership was overlooked. However, that too comes into play, gun control is so insideous because it stomps on so many rights that if you allow it, you open the door for the government to basically mandate whatever they want (I believe I also mentioned the citizen vs serf issue as well). "Guns are dangerous", well duh, so is driving a car; hell the gasoline you use to drive the car is at least as dangerous as a firearm. The fertilizer you use in your garden can be used to kill dozens of people, does that mean we should lock up allt he green thumbs that stock up on fertalizer? Obviously they must be planning a bombing spree. Are we to be considered innocent until proven guilty? Or will every good man and woman suffer because of the actions of a tiny minority of twisted individuals?
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