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Magus · 10-27-2008, 06:07 PM

"Thou may be correct but thou must understand what thou art getting at." I'd actually like to point out that in Olde English, as I understand it, thou is actually the informal way of addressing someone, usually someone you are acquainted with, with ye being the formal. So they actually got Cyan and Frog's speech messed up, at least for when you first meet them (most people don't know the difference, though, or forget about ye, or don't care, or whatever). Actually I'm not sure how exactly thee is used, I think if the person is the direct object of the verb. "He attacked thee." I think.

Anyway. I don't like the PSX cutscenes as a whole because you see some definite misinterpretation of what the sprites were doing in the game and such. The biggest example I can think of is during Crono's death in the Ocean Palace, where the anime cutscene is just pretty far out there. The shiny object located above Crono is actually in front of Crono; it's Lavos' eye. However, the cutscene interprets this as some sort of shiny ball of energy that flies out of Lavos after he has fired an energy beam at Crono, hovers over his head, and then like, I dunno, disintegrates him from being near him. It's really rather odd, and seems to simply be a misinterpretation of the 2D sprites on a 3D plane. There were some other odd instances but that's the one that really stuck out to me when I was playing the PSX version of Chrono Trigger.

Also, "Fiendlord"? You've got to be kidding me. At least rip-off the American Dragon Warrior/Quest games and call him "Archfiend Magus".

Man..."Fiendlord"...sheesh...isn't the proper Japanese translation actually "Demon King" or "Demon Lord" or something like that?

EDIT: I might be wrong on Thou based on the fact that I think Frog is supposed to be from an earlier type of era than the Renaissance. From Wikipedia: "Originally, thou was simply the singular counterpart to the plural pronoun ye, derived from an ancient Indo-European root. Following a process found in other Indo-European languages, thou was later used to express intimacy, familiarity, or even disrespect while another pronoun, you, the oblique/objective form of ye, was used for formal circumstances (see T-V distinction)". So Frog and even Cyan were probably properly written as saying thou.

Too bad English scholars don't play video games so we can get a definitive professional decision on this.

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Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	"Thou may be correct but thou must understand what thou art getting at." I'd actually like to point out that in Olde English, as I understand it, thou is actually the informal way of addressing someone, usually someone you are acquainted with, with ye being the formal. So they actually got Cyan and Frog's speech messed up, at least for when you first meet them (most people don't know the difference, though, or forget about ye, or don't care, or whatever). Actually I'm not sure how exactly thee is used, I think if the person is the direct object of the verb. "He attacked thee." I think. Anyway. I don't like the PSX cutscenes as a whole because you see some definite misinterpretation of what the sprites were doing in the game and such. The biggest example I can think of is during Crono's death in the Ocean Palace, where the anime cutscene is just pretty far out there. The shiny object located above Crono is actually in front of Crono; it's Lavos' eye. However, the cutscene interprets this as some sort of shiny ball of energy that flies out of Lavos after he has fired an energy beam at Crono, hovers over his head, and then like, I dunno, disintegrates him from being near him. It's really rather odd, and seems to simply be a misinterpretation of the 2D sprites on a 3D plane. There were some other odd instances but that's the one that really stuck out to me when I was playing the PSX version of Chrono Trigger. Also, "Fiendlord"? You've got to be kidding me. At least rip-off the American Dragon Warrior/Quest games and call him "Archfiend Magus". Man..."Fiendlord"...sheesh...isn't the proper Japanese translation actually "Demon King" or "Demon Lord" or something like that? EDIT: I might be wrong on Thou based on the fact that I think Frog is supposed to be from an earlier type of era than the Renaissance. From Wikipedia: "Originally, thou was simply the singular counterpart to the plural pronoun ye, derived from an ancient Indo-European root. Following a process found in other Indo-European languages, thou was later used to express intimacy, familiarity, or even disrespect while another pronoun, you, the oblique/objective form of ye, was used for formal circumstances (see T-V distinction)". So Frog and even Cyan were probably properly written as saying thou. Too bad English scholars don't play video games so we can get a definitive professional decision on this. __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 10-27-2008 at 06:11 PM.