The Warring States of NPF  

Go Back   The Warring States of NPF > Social > Media Consumption
User Name
Password
Mark Forums Read
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Join Chat

Reply
View First Unread View First Unread   Click to unhide all tags.Click to hide all tags.  
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-09-2011, 04:15 AM   #1
Seil
Super stressed!
 
Seil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 8,081
Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana.
Seil Why, In Order To Be A Writer, D'You Need To Be Drunk, Stoned Or Crazy?

Hemmingway, Marquis De Sade, Allen F***ing Ginsberg!

Drunken, crazy layabouts, and they churn out (questionably) brilliant works! Even Leonard Cohen dropped off the map for a couple 'a years and sampled Budhism and toured Europe and did the "Bohemian" thing. Why are the crazy people the most (arguably) brilliant ones?

Last edited by Seil; 07-09-2011 at 04:35 AM.
Seil is offline Add to Seil's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 08:09 AM   #2
Jagos
FRONT KICK OF DOOM!
 
Jagos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Howdy pardner...
Posts: 6,399
Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Jagos can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Send a message via Yahoo to Jagos
Default

The best intuitions usually come when you're high or you're that far in left field.

See also, Gospel of Mark.
Jagos is offline Add to Jagos's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 08:24 AM   #3
Amake
Keeper of the new
 
Amake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: A place without judgment
Posts: 4,506
Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Amake broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something.
Default "Why do crazy people have ideas sane people don't?" "That's what being crazy means."

You don't need to get high, it's just easier that way. Grant Morrison compared it to doping, which athletes tend to use in order to reach the maximal potential of their bodies, faster than they would otherwise but with debilitating long-term effects.

He also went on to point out writers aren't competing like sportsmen do, and doping yourself up therefore is much more morally defensible.

Meanwhile I haven't written anything in three days, and I also haven't had any caffeine in that time.
Amake is offline Add to Amake's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 08:48 AM   #4
Professor Smarmiarty
Sent to the cornfield
 
Professor Smarmiarty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: K-space
Posts: 9,758
Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law. Professor Smarmiarty isn't just above the law -- they are the law.
Send a message via MSN to Professor Smarmiarty
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagos View Post
See also, Gospel of Mark.
Huh?
Professor Smarmiarty is offline Add to Professor Smarmiarty's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 09:06 AM   #5
Azisien
wat
 
Azisien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,177
Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't. Azisien can secretly fly, but doesn't, because it would make everyone else feel bad that they can't.
Default

This seems like a really easy question to answer even on the Seil Spectrum of questions. You've been drunk before, haven't you Seil? You think about wacky shit when you're high, at least on anything I've ever been high on. The smartest of us just see fit to actually write it down and make it coherent in the morning.
Azisien is offline Add to Azisien's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 10:29 AM   #6
Seil
Super stressed!
 
Seil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 8,081
Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana.
Default

Quote:
You've been drunk before, haven't you Seil?
No.

But I manage to think of wacky shit when I'm sober. Then I get drunk and the juices flow. Also I become good at writing.
Seil is offline Add to Seil's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 10:34 AM   #7
Seil
Super stressed!
 
Seil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 8,081
Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana.
Default I Mean, Allen Fuckin' Ginsberg.

Quote:
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,
who bared their brains to Heaven under the El and saw Mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated,
who passed through universities with radiant eyes hallucinating Arkansas and Blake-light tragedy among the scholars of war,
who were expelled from the academies for crazy & publishing obscene odes on the windows of the skull,
who cowered in unshaven rooms in underwear, burning their money in wastebaskets and listening to the Terror through the wall,
who got busted in their pubic beards returning through Laredo with a belt of marijuana for New York,
who ate fire in paint hotels or drank turpentine in Paradise Alley, death, or purgatoried their torsos night after night
with dreams, with drugs, with waking nightmares, alcohol and cock and endless balls...
.
Seil is offline Add to Seil's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 11:16 AM   #8
Shyria Dracnoir
Kawaii-ju
 
Shyria Dracnoir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Monster Island
Posts: 4,240
Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Shyria Dracnoir is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana.
Send a message via MSN to Shyria Dracnoir
Default

It's a trend among creative types in general. Best reasons I can think of:

*You're more likely to have ideas and do things that no one else thought to before, but as a result you have trouble relating those ideas or the thought processes that lead to them to anyone who isn't also a creative type, so you get stereotyped as crazy or some other outsider by the general public.

*A lot of artists might have been drawn to art to escape something traumatic in their pasts or to instruct others about tragedy in an effort to get them to do something about it. On the side, they might indulge in other common avenues of escape, including drugs and alcohol. Can't be that bad if it makes the bad feelings go away, plus the altered mental states might give you inspiration for your next work.

Keep in mind I'm typing this just after I woke up and haven't had my coffee yet, so if it sounds like a load of bull it probably is.
__________________


Godzilla vs. Gamera (1994)
Shyria Dracnoir is offline Add to Shyria Dracnoir's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 11:19 AM   #9
Magus
Archer and Armstrong vs. the World
 
Magus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,164
Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something. Magus broke the dial off at twelve but is probably at infinity or something.
Send a message via AIM to Magus
Default

Those three are quite arguable as to their quality, though their impact on culture is undoubtedly high. I'm not a big fan of any of them. Also even if we consider them "brilliant", you cited three cases out of hundred of authors/poets who are also "brilliant" without being known for their alcoholism or drug use.

EDIT: Also is the Marquis de Sade supposed to be your "crazy" one, because from what I've read his "sadistic" tendencies were actually just consensual BDSM fetish shenanigans with numerous women. Quite radical for the time which is why he was given such a sinister reputation, but actually not really that out there by today's standards. He was more of a hedonist than a psychopath if I remember correctly.
__________________
The Valiant Review

Last edited by Magus; 07-09-2011 at 11:21 AM.
Magus is offline Add to Magus's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-09-2011, 11:33 AM   #10
Seil
Super stressed!
 
Seil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 8,081
Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana. Seil is like, the Tom Brady of NPF.  Okay.  Joe Montana.
Default

Quote:
Also is the Marquis de Sade supposed to be your "crazy" one,
Not really. Just picked him 'cause he was the first one to come to mind. (He probably came to a bunch of other things first, but...) The writers I listed aren't really supposed to apply strictly to the qualities in the title in that order.

Last edited by Seil; 10-08-2013 at 10:29 PM.
Seil is offline Add to Seil's Reputation   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:39 PM.
The server time is now 01:39:18 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.