Mafia: Basic - Page 6

P-Sleazy · 05-27-2006, 10:48 PM

Silly Kitty, were'nt you the PO in SOL mafia? You did a pretty damn good job as did the body guard and basically everyone. That was my first and thus far, BEST game of Mafia I've played.

Firstly, a giant FOS onto CrazyBen and h4xm4g3 for No Lynching. Odds will always be better for us to lynch. ALWAYS. we lynch tonight and the killing roles kill, were down 4 people (1 each for town lynch, mafia, vig, and Serial Killer). and 3 of those kills might be a mafia kills since the mafia only controls 1 kill among 5 people, and the other 3 people are not alligned with the mafia and know now who the mafia is and may kill them too. It even benefits the SK to kill mafia as well for if the mafia gets half the town population, mafia wins and SK loses.

Secondly, Mesden not to follow CMP but because of the following reasoning. You jumped the gun BEFORE anyone even made the crack at you being evil again. You outright said that you dont want us voting for you for past history, which we later had a crack made about it (by CmP), but you kept refering to that as your defense. This seems like you're trying to get us to look at you as an evil role or even any role and an easy way for you to digress votes that could possibly lynch you, evil or not. But its because you did it before the crack was made that makes me suspicious that you are trying to get out of it because of jokes made in previous games.

VOTE: Mesden

Mesden · 05-27-2006, 11:00 PM

Or, you know, because CmP said he would and my luck at being an evil role needed addressing earlier rather than later.

You know, so I didn't have to wait for the obvious accusation that would lead the game off. I like to handle things quickly, B_Real and saying I'm worth a vote BECAUSE I defend a VERY VERY likely occurence is a bit asinine.

And, let's turn the tables around a bit here. You seem to want me gone. No one else has a problem with me handling the obvious problem from the gate, but you're trigger happy enough to actually cast a vote so prematurely instead of accuse me and then wait for my reply before determining I'm guilty or not. You automatically assume that I'm scum off you accusation without giving me a chance to counteract.

Hastiness to vote before the other viewpoint can even explain why begs the question, why so quick to vote, B_Real? Want to get rid of someone fast? What's that say about you? Serial Killer? Aggresive Mafiate maybe? Or, mistaken and a bit rash townie?

I'll let the others decide and leave this at a strong FOS: B_Real_Shadows for acting a bit too rash to vote.

My experience from .Hack Mafia showed that a powerful vote at the beginning can help with townie eliminations. So, I suspect you more than anyone right now, B_real. Since this could be very similar to my ploy in that afformentioned game. (Seems my tendencies are popular, no?)

Edit: GRAMMAR!

***Fenris*** · 05-28-2006, 12:01 AM

Mesden, I think you're being a bit extreme. I'm guessing that he's just trying to connect the dots and we don't have many dots to go on at this point.

B_real, on the other hand, I think you're being a bit hasty. Instead of merely jumping to conclusions based on past experiences that have no direct effect on this game, why don't you ask Mesden why she defended herself before she was accused of anything? It sends the same message without the ill connotations that you're sending.

My two cents.

On the Mesden guilt issue: I see no proof on her negative or positive alignment. My opinion is that I need more information before making a decision.

Major Blood · 05-28-2006, 12:17 AM

If you're wondering about the deleted post, it was cause i posted it in the wrong thread.

The Wandering God · 05-28-2006, 12:51 AM

This sucks. We just lost two more townies. (Yeah, I'm aware of how the reporter works, but if you look at it one way, even if the reporter ID'd the Police Officer or Vig, then the Doc could cover them. Of course, if the doc is revealed...)

Anyway, it's kind of a Catch-22 isn't it? We need to vote for someone. (I agree, no lynching is gnodab.)

But voting for someone draws suspicion to the the first person who votes. (The finger pointer.)

However, the mafia would have to be extremly stupid (or have a member who doesn't want to cooperate), to throw around votes this early in the game.

Of course, they could be using reverse psychology, but then things get too complicated.

What I'm trying to say is, don't immediately think someone is scummy for voting for someone else. At the very least, they are in fact playing this game, and are willing to risk the attention to get things moving.

Hmmmmm.

Although I do wonder why h4x said, "(reporter and another failed hit means we know who's innocent or not.)"

How do you know the doc will choose correctly in the coming night?

The Wandering God

h4x.m4g3 · 05-28-2006, 01:16 AM

Perhaps I worded my statement wrong before. What I meant by 'another failed hit letting us know who's innocent' is that we know who was attacked without losing a townie, and by the way Newb describes the attempted attacks we know what they are not. I.E. based on what happened last night I know TWG isn't Vig, because he was attacked by the Vig-"I detect evil". I have no ideal what his role is, but I'm begining to eliminate possibilities of what he is. As for the reporter isn't that his job description, pick somebody and report the role, night activity to all via the GM?

As for the no lynching sucking, it does, I know this, but there are situations when it could be valueable, and this seems like one of those times. The mafia wins by being half the population, if we kill another townie we're pushing them to that goal, not away. Is there a chance we could guess right, yes. I posted the mathematical odds earlier. But its still guessing. Odds are I won't be voting no lynch, because odds are by the time for the final vote tally someone will have given me a good reason to hang them (and no I don't believe in hanging someone just for accusing/voting me, accuse all you want.)

Mesden · 05-28-2006, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenrisWolf

Mesden, I think you're being a bit extreme. I'm guessing that he's just trying to connect the dots and we don't have many dots to go on at this point.

Of course he's trying to connect the dots. But those dots are leading to my accusations.

See, I'm just relating his actions to the .Hack game, the one I committed. I think of myself as a fairly good mafiate player(Both games I was mafia, the mafia won, with my plan.) and taking these variations of play isn't something to be ruled out and to my eye could offer a bit of suspicion.

But, if I were extreme, I would have voted for him. I'm siding with rash townie or mafiate, so, with the 50% chance of it to be the former, I only FOS'd.

Also, exetremity is a good thing most of the time in this game. It gets the point across and you need to do that. MoM wasn't head forward with his PO posts and that hurt the town more than it could've helped.

catlover20410 · 05-28-2006, 01:45 AM

Mesden, your overreaction to B_real's accusations make me very suspicious.

Revote:Mesden.

The Wandering God · 05-28-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catlover20410

Mesden, your overreaction to B_real's accusations make me very suspicious.

Revote:Mesden.

The hell? "Overreacting"? She just FoS'd him.

And now I'm going to FoS:Catlover20410 for voting, unvoting, THEN VOTING again for the same person.

Seriously, this reeks of you having a grudge.

The Wandering God

Sithdarth · 05-28-2006, 02:22 AM

Ok because I know all you guys love lists I gots me one:

Inactive players(as of this post)

Supreme Edgemaster
Pos_Industries
sk3l3t0n
Neyo the King
The Wizard Who Did It
Big Mac

Now being innactive isn't very indicitive of anything in and of its self. However, if no clear choices for lynching emerge I'd rather run with someone that's not contributing. They have the same chance of being a townie, or not, as anyone else. The key difference is they aren't helping us in anyway. Mafiates, usually, implicate themselves and townies are helpful, generally. The SK can be a bit harder to ferret out but he/she will slip up at some point. Thus I am reserving my vote until such time as I have a strong feeling about someone. Failing that, assuming that I'm awake, towards the end of the deadling I will pick at random from those still innactive for my vote.

05-27-2006, 10:48 PM	#51
P-Sleazy Can Summon Sparkles by Posing! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kinging it up! Posts: 2,339	Silly Kitty, were'nt you the PO in SOL mafia? You did a pretty damn good job as did the body guard and basically everyone. That was my first and thus far, BEST game of Mafia I've played. Firstly, a giant FOS onto CrazyBen and h4xm4g3 for No Lynching. Odds will always be better for us to lynch. ALWAYS. we lynch tonight and the killing roles kill, were down 4 people (1 each for town lynch, mafia, vig, and Serial Killer). and 3 of those kills might be a mafia kills since the mafia only controls 1 kill among 5 people, and the other 3 people are not alligned with the mafia and know now who the mafia is and may kill them too. It even benefits the SK to kill mafia as well for if the mafia gets half the town population, mafia wins and SK loses. Secondly, Mesden not to follow CMP but because of the following reasoning. You jumped the gun BEFORE anyone even made the crack at you being evil again. You outright said that you dont want us voting for you for past history, which we later had a crack made about it (by CmP), but you kept refering to that as your defense. This seems like you're trying to get us to look at you as an evil role or even any role and an easy way for you to digress votes that could possibly lynch you, evil or not. But its because you did it before the crack was made that makes me suspicious that you are trying to get out of it because of jokes made in previous games. VOTE: Mesden __________________ The King is your new master now. Totally returning for the Summer: a mafia Game: Sign ups HERE!

05-27-2006, 11:00 PM	#52
Mesden There is no Toph, only Melon Lord! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inside of a box inside of a smaller box Posts: 4,310	Or, you know, because CmP said he would and my luck at being an evil role needed addressing earlier rather than later. You know, so I didn't have to wait for the obvious accusation that would lead the game off. I like to handle things quickly, B_Real and saying I'm worth a vote BECAUSE I defend a VERY VERY likely occurence is a bit asinine. And, let's turn the tables around a bit here. You seem to want me gone. No one else has a problem with me handling the obvious problem from the gate, but you're trigger happy enough to actually cast a vote so prematurely instead of accuse me and then wait for my reply before determining I'm guilty or not. You automatically assume that I'm scum off you accusation without giving me a chance to counteract. Hastiness to vote before the other viewpoint can even explain why begs the question, why so quick to vote, B_Real? Want to get rid of someone fast? What's that say about you? Serial Killer? Aggresive Mafiate maybe? Or, mistaken and a bit rash townie? I'll let the others decide and leave this at a strong FOS: B_Real_Shadows for acting a bit too rash to vote. My experience from .Hack Mafia showed that a powerful vote at the beginning can help with townie eliminations. So, I suspect you more than anyone right now, B_real. Since this could be very similar to my ploy in that afformentioned game. (Seems my tendencies are popular, no?) Edit: GRAMMAR! __________________ I can tell you're lying.

05-28-2006, 12:01 AM	#53
*Fenris* Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 6,806	Mesden, I think you're being a bit extreme. I'm guessing that he's just trying to connect the dots and we don't have many dots to go on at this point. B_real, on the other hand, I think you're being a bit hasty. Instead of merely jumping to conclusions based on past experiences that have no direct effect on this game, why don't you ask Mesden why she defended herself before she was accused of anything? It sends the same message without the ill connotations that you're sending. My two cents. On the Mesden guilt issue: I see no proof on her negative or positive alignment. My opinion is that I need more information before making a decision. __________________ "FENRIS IS AN ASSHOLE" - shiney Last edited by Fenris; 05-28-2006 at 12:05 AM.

05-28-2006, 12:17 AM	#54
Major Blood I'm out. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I'm not giving my location to a computer! Posts: 1,859	If you're wondering about the deleted post, it was cause i posted it in the wrong thread. __________________ I'm outers folks. Mac can have my stuff.

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05-28-2006, 12:51 AM	#55
The Wandering God THE SUPREME COURT DID WHAT? Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas (for now) Posts: 1,477	This sucks. We just lost two more townies. (Yeah, I'm aware of how the reporter works, but if you look at it one way, even if the reporter ID'd the Police Officer or Vig, then the Doc could cover them. Of course, if the doc is revealed...) Anyway, it's kind of a Catch-22 isn't it? We need to vote for someone. (I agree, no lynching is gnodab.) But voting for someone draws suspicion to the the first person who votes. (The finger pointer.) However, the mafia would have to be extremly stupid (or have a member who doesn't want to cooperate), to throw around votes this early in the game. Of course, they could be using reverse psychology, but then things get too complicated. What I'm trying to say is, don't immediately think someone is scummy for voting for someone else. At the very least, they are in fact playing this game, and are willing to risk the attention to get things moving. Hmmmmm. Although I do wonder why h4x said, "(reporter and another failed hit means we know who's innocent or not.)" How do you know the doc will choose correctly in the coming night? The Wandering God

05-28-2006, 01:16 AM	#56
h4x.m4g3 Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,152	Perhaps I worded my statement wrong before. What I meant by 'another failed hit letting us know who's innocent' is that we know who was attacked without losing a townie, and by the way Newb describes the attempted attacks we know what they are not. I.E. based on what happened last night I know TWG isn't Vig, because he was attacked by the Vig-"I detect evil". I have no ideal what his role is, but I'm begining to eliminate possibilities of what he is. As for the reporter isn't that his job description, pick somebody and report the role, night activity to all via the GM? As for the no lynching sucking, it does, I know this, but there are situations when it could be valueable, and this seems like one of those times. The mafia wins by being half the population, if we kill another townie we're pushing them to that goal, not away. Is there a chance we could guess right, yes. I posted the mathematical odds earlier. But its still guessing. Odds are I won't be voting no lynch, because odds are by the time for the final vote tally someone will have given me a good reason to hang them (and no I don't believe in hanging someone just for accusing/voting me, accuse all you want.)

05-28-2006, 02:22 AM	#60
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Ok because I know all you guys love lists I gots me one: Inactive players(as of this post) Supreme Edgemaster Pos_Industries sk3l3t0n Neyo the King The Wizard Who Did It Big Mac Now being innactive isn't very indicitive of anything in and of its self. However, if no clear choices for lynching emerge I'd rather run with someone that's not contributing. They have the same chance of being a townie, or not, as anyone else. The key difference is they aren't helping us in anyway. Mafiates, usually, implicate themselves and townies are helpful, generally. The SK can be a bit harder to ferret out but he/she will slip up at some point. Thus I am reserving my vote until such time as I have a strong feeling about someone. Failing that, assuming that I'm awake, towards the end of the deadling I will pick at random from those still innactive for my vote.