chat8bit: Mafia

[Nikose Tyris]

IC: Why do you keep doing that? The multiple votes? it's a bit discerning, knowing you've now voted for 4 people today, one of whom isn't in the game. :P

[Steel Shadow]

Nikose: If he roleclaims, I back him up.

Wait, does that mean you back him up if he roleclaims what he actualy is, or roleclaims whatever, like if he said he was mafia you'd back him up on that to?

[Bailey]

Roleclaims his actual role. I remember that personality from my game.

And who's to say that Mesden couldn't have both rolled the Paranoid personality and the Cult Leader role?

Also, I think that IC has recieved the Insane personality.

As such, I believe he must be "put to sleep" for his own good.

vote: IC

[Mesden]

Originally Posted by Newb

Roleclaims his actual role. I remember that personality from my game.

And who's to say that Mesden couldn't have both rolled the Paranoid personality and the Cult Leader role?

I dunno...That just seems kind of cheap, doesn't it? Can't really tell you it's impossible, but, I mean, seriously, is it more likely than less?

Also, I think that IC has recieved the Insane personality.

As such, I believe he must be "put to sleep" for his own good.

vote: IC

Me too, well, the Drunk personality. But as long as we don't listen to him, he's still a townie(Discernable) in our favor.

Lots of people are saying junk about me, here. Lots of 'possibilities' are floating around. But here's something I REALLY need to reply to:

Originally Posted by Elbodo

I will readily agree that Mesden is, today, a town-aligned townie, and as such is a great asset to us.

Oh, now you're just embarrasing me. :o

However I must point out the following:

Uh-oh.

We don't know that paranoia makes here immune to all night kills. We have seen her survive one mafia hit. It may be that she would have succumbed to a serial killer hit or vigilante kill. We also do not know whether she would survive any more than one night attack.

Fenny pointed it out. I can't die at night ever ever ever. I supposedly have some nice house with locked doors and secret tunnels. I'ma kook!

It could have been a one-time defense. (Mesden -- I know that a person cannot roleclaim a secret role before it is revealed by the GO, but now that your role has been revealed are you allowed to explain it? Of course, revealing such details might not be a good idea (depending on what those details are) so I am happy to rely upon your judgement of whether or not to do so.)

Well, as far as my interpretation of the rule (That I made!) goes, I can do whatever the hell I like once my role has been revealed. I just can't reveal it myself.

Elaboration is, if I am targetted by a night killing role, I will not die. I will lock my doors to stall them and take a secret tunnel to escape them. I would then run to the police about how I was almost killed. After that, given the crisis of the town, a reporter would apparently interview me and spread the news that I'm a survivor of the mafia.

It seems to me that a person who can't be night killed would be a greater asset to the cult than a person who can't be lynched. There is no defense to a night kill (except Mesden's or a bodyguard, 'cept we lost ours) but when it looks like a lynch is coming the cult can sort of defend its own, ya know, since they know each other and can talk outside the thread.

I was debating why IHMN's role is more powerful now. At first, before I was revealed, it wouldn't have been. You know why? We still had all of our killing roles.

Now the only night killer left(Save a secret role) it the mafia, who have already tried to kill me. They failed, so I doubt they'll try again only to guarantee failure.

But you know what? I'm still susceptible to lynching. It's the only thing that can kill me off right now. IHMN? He's immune to this. As of now, it's still a threat to both of us, whereas the mafia is not a threat to me. Now IHMN's only weakness is the mafia, since all the other roles died. Seeing as they opted to attack me over him, he seems less likely to die. IE: The mafia apparently don't care about killing him and the town can't.

It's kind of a point of view and self interpretation thing, I guess.

Do I think this means Mesden will automatically be drafted into the cult tonight? Not necessarily. There is certainly something to be gained by drafting IHMN or even Nikose. I just think that until we get the cult leader we have to keep an eye on our known townies in the coming days to watch for symptoms of cult-itis.

That's normally how it works, yeah.

As for who to suspect or lynch today. . .well, I'm still on the fence. I was kinda leaning toward Nikose until we found out his secret role so now I have to start rereading the thread again. But I think that's for tomorrow since between babysitting my neices and fixing my mom's computer I've had about two hours of sleep in the last 48.

I'll bring up a post later today or tomorrow about who I think. I've got work to gets to and I can't read anymore today. So if you're expecting me to change the tide, like I tend to do, give it a few hours. (Few being, like, a dozen or two).

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Besides, lurkers are known to be PUER EVILS!!!! WE MUST KILL THEM ALLLZ!!!!!!

Thats what I am getting from you at least. So, now that we have established that, maybe I would like you to rethink your stradegy. I mean, comon if they don't post, don't they get their ass bootednatid from the game anyway? And if they pop in to say, I ain't gonna post cuz I am lazy, then they will just sit there and rot. And we can vote for them if we gots no one else (But we always got someones else).

Lurkers are sometimes Mafia hiding in the shadows, yep. I don't feel the need to rethink my strategy, as we do not have anyone else acting suspicious to go on currently.

Besides, isn't it obvious I am a townie. (You will find out why thats funny later.)

Is the funny gonna be, "See, it's funny because I'm not a townie"?

[MariusTwilight]

I'm going to withdraw my FOS on Nikose, for now, as he is apparently town aligned. I say apparently because anything can happen during the night.

Even if IC is the Drunk thing or the Insane one, I don't know either, it doesn't matter if he is town aligned. In either case, it would be better to disreguard his votes for now, and focus on those who are more suspicious.

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Besides, isn't it obvious I am a townie. (You will find out why thats funny later.)

Why would it be funny if he were town aligned? Simple. If he was, from what I have seen others suggest, and insane person, he is town aligned with votings for random people which could include other townies. That would just be twisted humor I guess.

Mesden cannot be killed at night. While the Mafia may, or may not, have known about this, I personally think it would be more productive to vote for someone that they know could be killed during the night. The Cult would have more benefits for abducting IHMN, while Mesden might come later. For now I believe Mesden is quite town-aligned.

Arha apparently is town aligned, by killing anyone who attacks #3, but does this mean she is deffinitely town aligned? No, but it is a large chance.

Ecurt is well.. Ecurt I guess. Neither Ecurt or GUARD seem really suspicious to me for the moment, and seem to take it abit more as a joke then anything else. That can be a bad thing

Elbodo isn't suspicious to me, and seems more like a suspicious (Of others) but town-aligned person.

Steel_Shadow is the same as my thoughts on Elbodo for the moment.

Roy_D_Mylot seems the most suspicious currently, but even then it isn't enough for me to vote for him. He just seems hell bent on getting IC lynched for reasons I'm not fully sure.

Newb seems to be staying about as quiet in the entire thing as I am, with the exception of this post.

*Pokes Raiden with a stick* Is he dead...? I havn't seen him post, which is either good, or bad. I can't really decide. This also applies to the others who havn't replied.

TWWDT seems well.. I don't know. The one post isn't enough to go on, so I'm keeping a suspicion on him. Even if it is one of those "I don't know enough about you" kind of suspicion.

[Fenris]

Just a note, Arhra protected Silly Kitty, nobody else.

There is something I don't quite understand. What is the point of debating who is a greater asset to the cult? It's not like we can do anything to stop the cult leader from drafting them, can we?

[Roy_D_Mylote]

Originally Posted by MariusTwilight

Roy_D_Mylot seems the most suspicious currently, but even then it isn't enough for me to vote for him. He just seems hell bent on getting IC lynched for reasons I'm not fully sure.

Uh...huh? Never have I tried on getting IC lynched. I've been getting on the nonposters, not IC. God. That's just weird, that you'd mix up IC and two other people. And I've not been trying to get them lynched. I've been trying to get them to post. And it seemed to work, for TWWDI and Sith, anyway.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Thief

There is something I don't quite understand. What is the point of debating who is a greater asset to the cult? It's not like we can do anything to stop the cult leader from drafting them, can we?

Kill them now.

Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Uh...huh? Never have I tried on getting IC lynched. I've been getting on the nonposters, not IC. God. That's just weird, that you'd mix up IC and two other people. And I've not been trying to get them lynched. I've been trying to get them to post. And it seemed to work, for TWWDI and Sith, anyway.


Kill them now.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but the cult wins when everybody in the town is converted right? What's the use of helping out the cult by killing non cult members? Shouldn't we concentrate on killing the present cult members instead of the future cult members? Technically, everyone is liable to get drafted, so does that mean that everyone should hang?