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Unread 09-06-2010, 07:03 AM   #91
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I don't believe you can take away from Wallace. 1) He's helping out Scott a LOT. 2) He gives advice as the mature one. 3) This is a gay guy that's friends with a straight dude. How many times do you really see that + the gay man having a healthy sex life?
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Unread 09-06-2010, 09:14 AM   #92
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This is quickly turning into a topic for another thread but I'm not disagreeing that the character was mostly good... It's just that I'm 100% sure that playing into gay stereotypes like being promiscuous added nothing beneficial as it would have worked much better to have the character being in a single healthy relationship (unlike Scott who was apparently breaking hearts left and right). His position as mature advice giver might have carried more weight then.
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Unread 09-06-2010, 10:13 AM   #93
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My main problem with what you're saying is that you're looking at being promiscuous as being an inherently negative thing, and so Wallace not looking for long term relationships is similarly bad from your perspective. He differs from Scott in that Scott forms relationships, and then just breaks their heart. Wallace doesn't seem to make any commitment like that.
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Unread 09-06-2010, 04:35 PM   #94
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I'm pretty sure Scott outright calls him a hypocrite at some point and I would say stealing boyfriends is a negative thing. In any case, a positive or neutral stereotype is still a stereotype.
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Unread 09-06-2010, 05:07 PM   #95
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I'm pretty sure Scott outright calls him a hypocrite at some point and I would say stealing boyfriends is a negative thing. In any case, a positive or neutral stereotype is still a stereotype.
Eh, it didn't really stand out as trying to force a stereotype to me. Just part of his character.

Besides which, calling hypocrisy seemed sorta bullshitty since most of what Wallace tries to tell Scott is more based around Scott being miserable with the way things are, rather than because he specifically had a problem with the way Scott handled his relationships.
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I understand that thread necromancy is frowned upon around these here parts. BUT I need to say this.

I just saw this movie for the 3rd time, first time after reading the comics. Guys, it gets better with age. I've now started to notice how in an outside sort of way it is a commentary on how self-deprecating the stereotypical "nice guy" is, and that in their avoidance of conflict they can sometimes be the biggest asshole of all.
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