Pokemon Umbral Discussion 38: Shenanigans At Dawn, Sir!

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

Lucario is Fighting/Steel type and thus doesn't get STAB for Dark Pulse.

Right.

Originally Posted by Menarker

So basically you're applying the Slayer effect of the weapon element you use onto a pokekmon move that your affected pokemon uses... But technically, the effect seems like it would be the same if Pierce was just attacking directly, since you aren't applying power to the move and all you're doing is adding the slayer stat affliction of the weapon Pierce is holding.
Is that about right?

Yep.

What, nothing to say on Five-Star Deluxe Special or Remember Your Training?

Anyway, I thought up a fifth Trainer Action for Pierce.

Willpower: Both of Pierce's pokemon gain 50% resistance to being afflicted with statuses until the end of the turn.

AB, if we're not finalizing the changes to the advanced upgrades before this turn, does that mean Irene has Overblade's Double Attack?

[Menarker]

Well, I approve of 5 Star Deluxe mainly because I still don't think it might have any significant influence, but it's your choice.

Remember your Training I don't really know whether to accept or not, although I'm definately more accepting of it now.

Willpower was one of the ones I was thinking of proposing, so I guess I don't have any particular problems with it.


As for Irene using Double Attack, I'd be very wary about setting precedents. If you let Irene Double Attack this round, I'll expect that she'll be able to do it for all future rounds and thus anyone who reaches her level should be able to do it too.

I just wanted to have a base plan in mind so we weren't wasting time later on.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

Well, I approve of 5 Star Deluxe mainly because I still don't think it might have any significant influence, but it's your choice.

Specify, man! Do you prefer if it regenerates or just plain heals damage, and on one or both pokemon?

I can't make these decisions on my own! I'M ONLY A MAN FOR GOD'S SAKES.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Remember your Training I don't really know whether to accept or not, although I'm definately more accepting of it now.

I think I'll scrap it.

Tell me what you think of this:

Mock: Pierce taunts one enemy. One enemy's attack is redirected at one of Pierce's pokemon. Multi-target attacks would be centered on Pierce's pokemon. The pokemon targetted does not gain Rage when this Trainer Action is used.

Sorta like follow me, except for one attack. And no Rage gain, so y'know.

Originally Posted by Menarker

As for Irene using Double Attack, I'd be very wary about setting precedents. If you let Irene Double Attack this round, I'll expect that she'll be able to do it for all future rounds and thus anyone who reaches her level should be able to do it too.

I just wanted to have a base plan in mind so we weren't wasting time later on.

Hell, I don't know if we want to put the RP on hold any more than we already have.

[Menarker]

Well... Gem might yell at me, and I apologize if I go overboard... but for Five Star Deluxe I would have it target a single pokemon but regenerate a 20% of max health every turn. Significant enough to be of SOME use during combat, but it won't save you for being ganged up, or at least for long. "Expect no less from Chizuru's cooking"

>_> As for Mock, I'd want to slap you SO badly, because that's the custom move I wanted for my Umbreon...
Well, there are a few significant differences...It could redirect it to any friendly ally and it redirect all attacks targetting an ally it wanted to protect.
Otherwise, I wouldn't reject it yet. (Still thinking whether to approve, but I got to leave for work NOW.)

[Dracorion]

Well hurry up and get back from work, then.

Or make Gem log on sooner, pick your favorite.

[Menarker]

Well, someone offered me a ride, so that gives me a little time left.
One thing that came to mind what Pierce could end up doing with Mock is that one of his pokemons could use Protect and Mock would then end up being effectively a single target Null Turn move (unless the attack used was Almighty Type or Feint or something like that). However, that does mean that one of your pokemons wouldn't be attacking. We'd basically be trading off one attacker on our side for one attacker on their side, although you'd get the bonus that any foes that was going to attack that pokemon in the first place would have wasted their move on a protected pokemon.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

Well, someone offered me a ride, so that gives me a little time left.
One thing that came to mind what Pierce could end up doing with Mock is that one of his pokemons could use Protect and Mock would then end up being effectively a single target Null Turn move (unless the attack used was Almighty Type or Feint or something like that). However, that does mean that one of your pokemons wouldn't be attacking. We'd basically be trading off one attacker on our side for one attacker on their side, although you'd get the bonus that any foes that was going to attack that pokemon in the first place would have wasted their move on a protected pokemon.

Admittedly, I didn't think of that. What if the pokemon targetted isn't allowed to take an action, but does gain Rage?

[Menarker]

I'd personally be ok with that.

Anyhow, got to get going. Be back in several hours.

[Astral Harmony]

Yes, treat Irene like normal as far as Double Attack is concerned. However, her second attack will not generate any Rage. This isn't the permanent solution to it, but we'll do that for this mission.

I was hoping to address all these class changes, but my Internet crapped itself last night halfway through reviewing them all.

Anyways, I woke up late this morning, so I don't have any time before I have to go to work.

[Dracorion]

That'll teach you to spend all night giving your left arm a workout.