Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1006

Art of Hilt · 02-10-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Flarecobra

Any bets that in a real fight, he'd just run away?

That depends, does getting ambushed by HB and then chopping his head off not count as a real fight?

Flarecobra · 02-10-2012, 05:14 PM

No, that's a "get the fuck outta here." moment.

I ment like what Bro, Davesprite, and Jack went through

Arcanum · 02-10-2012, 05:29 PM

Considering he's still fundamentally the same Bro, I'm gonna say him running like a coward isn't all that likely.

BitVyper · 02-11-2012, 02:56 AM

Captain Snoop! You're alive!

Loyal · 02-11-2012, 08:57 AM

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TT: Nothin'.
TT: Hang on, though. Before you go,
TT: You never did give me any actual advice on my situation.
TT: With the dead agent, and my blown cover.
UU: oh, right!
UU: i woUld look at it this way.
UU: yoU are moments away from beginning yoUr session, yes?
TT: Sure.
UU: and yoU have already spent a long time gathering intelligence Unbeknownst to the aUthorities.
UU: how mUch more do yoU expect to accUmUlate even if yoU coUld stay Undetected?
UU: and how mUch strategic advantage is left to gain by delaying yoUr discovery for mUch longer?
TT: I don't know.
UU: i say the time to make a stand is now!
UU: to hell with the dersite tossers.
UU: make yoUr presence known. let them see that the prince is awake, and make it abUndantly clear what that means.
UU: perhaps it is their tUrn to be nervoUs? to cower in the shadows and live in Uncertainty?

Pretty sure she's telling Dirk to become Batman here.

Art of Hilt · 02-11-2012, 09:56 AM

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Pretty sure she's telling Dirk to become Batman here.

Dirk pondered upon his dilemma. It is true, what UU said. In his mind, the cogs began to turn: "Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot," he thought, "so my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts! I must be a creature of the night. Black. Terrible. A... a..."
Just then, a particularly well-endowed Smuppet flew past his window.

Locke cole · 02-11-2012, 12:17 PM

He's a Prince, not a Bard. A codpiece outfit would just be out of place on him, and that's the best way for him to "become a smuppet"

BitVyper · 02-12-2012, 12:58 AM

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I guess it's good to have confirmed that the titles basically have like no connection to what they actually mean.

I'm pretty sure the Prince class is heavily related to princes like Paris, who is ultimately responsible for the destruction of Troy. I think that's an example that relates really well to how we've seen the class play out so far. Alternately, princes like, almost always herald destruction. Just looking at Greek myth, how many kings have had sons who were prophesied to destroy them? How many of those sons totally tore up the established order (other than the line of kingship, of course)?

There's also Aragorn; Strider, incase anyone wants to question the parallel. Aragorn isn't just a prince (prior to actually taking the throne of Gondor, anyway), but he has a certain amount of duality being the ranger, Strider, and the proper ruler of Gondor, (not to mention having two women in love with him) so he actually fits pretty well as Prince of Heart. I could go through the story and try to count up all the things Aragorn did to fit them into this perspective (not that I think princes ALWAYS need to be destroying things in Homestuck terms; Eridan was just a psychopath), but one of his greatest acts out of the books was calling up an army of ghosts (undead being pretty classically dual natured themselves what with having one foot in the afterlife while they linger here) to wreck the fuck out of Sauron's corsairs.

Princes are all about wrecking shit up. It's not an interpretation that holds true 100% of the time, but it is definitely a pretty valid interpretation in a statistically significant number of cases if we want to split hairs, and it's one that works better for a class that isn't going to level up to "king." Heh, I wonder if that's why the Princes we've seen in Homestuck tend to be a bit frustrated.

Fake edit: Yes I know the name Strider was essentially chosen by fans, but that just shows one of the broad ways in which fans drive the story.

stefan · 02-12-2012, 01:32 AM

there's also the fact that Hussie has said once or twice that Homestuck, like the later stages of Problem Sleuth, has influence from JRPGs.

and anyone who's played a xeno-game knows that JRPGs from the mid-late 90's to the early-mid 2000's all had a really, really, really bad problem about vomiting unconnected faux-symbolism everywhere.

BitVyper · 02-12-2012, 04:17 AM

Well bear in mind that she only said a prince is *A* destroyer class, and only to indicate that it is a very active, self serving role. There are other destroyer classes, so there's other things that make a prince a prince.

02-10-2012, 05:14 PM	#10052
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	No, that's a "get the fuck outta here." moment. I ment like what Bro, Davesprite, and Jack went through __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

02-10-2012, 05:29 PM	#10053
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Considering he's still fundamentally the same Bro, I'm gonna say him running like a coward isn't all that likely. __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

02-11-2012, 02:56 AM	#10054
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Captain Snoop! You're alive! __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

02-12-2012, 04:17 AM	#10060
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Well bear in mind that she only said a prince is A destroyer class, and only to indicate that it is a very active, self serving role. There are other destroyer classes, so there's other things that make a prince a prince. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

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02-12-2012, 01:32 AM	#10059
stefan Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 870	there's also the fact that Hussie has said once or twice that Homestuck, like the later stages of Problem Sleuth, has influence from JRPGs. and anyone who's played a xeno-game knows that JRPGs from the mid-late 90's to the early-mid 2000's all had a really, really, really bad problem about vomiting unconnected faux-symbolism everywhere.