My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia

[Ryanderman]

I don't think he's asking you to shut up. Just, contain your thoughts to single posts in a row?

Before I change my vote to greed, as I really don't like just following the crowd without understanding the reason, could you explain why we're voting for him? We've got all this argument against rpgdemon, and we're voting for greed? Is it just his lack of posting much, and not contributing much to the discussion?

[Nikose Tyris]

UNVOTE: GREED

Because actually

VOTE: RPGDEMON

Because Sifright.

[Oron]

Got back from class and read back through a few posts. I've been stuck on the whole "Sifright vs. RPG" fiasco.

Sif's self votes almost seem like bluffs, as if he's saying, "Vote for me. I dare you." Well, the second one sounded pretty ragequit-ish, but he voted for himself and promptly said how stupid voting for him was while RO and Karesh basically said, "Stop that."

It might just seem like that to me because I've been keeping RPG's arguments in mind while reading through the last couple game-days, though. He's made some points that I thought were agreeable, but he has been pretty ardent in questioning Sifright.

It's kind of a split in between the two in my mind, so I'm going to hold off on voting for a little bit. I'm still really busy because I basically have two or three exams every week (last week was my only week without exams for the last month and a half, which is why I was more active then than I am now). I'll come check on this again later tonight.

[Oron]

Logged back in real quick for a little clarification:

It was Sifright's second self-vote that seemed most bluff-like to me, mostly because:
1) It was the second time he did it.
2) He made that vote in response to RPG pressuring him. That made me think of RPG voting himself into a lynch in the Homestuck Mafia game.

Now I'm off for real.

[Gregness]

Originally Posted by Sifright

So thats 4 non mafia the very least confirmed that Nikose has voted for. obviously when thinking about it my self i'm bumping that number to 5.

Things that worry, high number of players that are making one or two posts a game day and then nothing more. In that list is Oron, Bard, Ryanderman, Greed and Gregness.

So thats five there. I'm working on the assumption that we have five mafia and one SK. Cult were slaughtered night one which is basically a miracle. Chances are one of those five has to be town but they are all equally inactive. RPGDEMON is scummy for the reasons i've listed previously at this point i'm not certain what to do. I also Feel there is a good chance nikose is the SK, with that in mind I'm not going to vote to lynch him.

Unvote: Whoever

Vote:RPGDEMON


HOS: NIKOSE
HOS: Bard
HOS: Gregness
HOS: Ryanderman
HOS: Greed
HOS: Oron

Oh. My. GOD. You're really going to make me do this aren't you?

Originally Posted by Gregness

I know this might be tough given your... restrictions, but that's the second time you've sent a HoS my way and I'm curious why.

One of the chief arguments people have used to convince themselves that IHMN is town is something along the lines of "no one would put themselves through all that on purpose." Think about it though, doesn't that make it the perfect facade? Even if IHMN is telling the truth about derpy, she doesn't have to be town aligned. Derpy seems like a decent enough candidate to be the SK.

Now, the problem with that lies in the flavor text of the night kills. How much can we rely on it for information? This is my first Mafia game, so I don't know how much stock we can usually put in it. Could it be that even IF the flavor text IS technically accurate in that it's a cockatrice making the kills, could the cockatrice be somepony's pet?

I haven't convinced myself of this yet, but I think we should consider these sorts of things so that we can avoid any more screwups like we've had the first two days. Basically, I want to make sure we cover our bases.

HoS: IHMN
HoS: Nikose


HoS on Nikose because he's thrown out half a dozen more flippant contradictions than I'm comfortable with.

that's one...

Originally Posted by Gregness

Actually, I've been TRYING to contribute to the discussion, but people keep ignoring my points in favor of jumping all up on this assinine sif/rpg debate.

And I'd like to contribute more, but quite frankly guys I'm an engineering student and so just combing through the backlog that builds up in this thread takes enough time as it is without ALSO trying to write down coherant and logical arguments.

Granted, not like some people have been even bothering with coherant arguments.

I still haven't heard anyone actually accuse me of anything beyond being bland I guess? I mean, it's like rpg (I think) was complaining about earlier. I've actually posted somewhere between 5 and 10 times each day but it just doesn't look like much when compared to 100 pages of posts.

Anyway, the big issue here is that our first two days were completely cocked up and so we almost haven't moved past our D1 level of information.

Oh, and I feel like I should refute the idea that a bunch of scum drawing attention to themselves is necessarily a bad idea.

Two...

Originally Posted by Gregness

We also don't know that that's all the scum.

... and three (and this one makes four) so far this game day. Most of which, I might add, have more content than the vast majority of your own posts (the lack of which was pointed out by Fenris).

So tell me: Why am I suspicious again?

[Ryanderman]

Things that worry, high number of players that are making one or two posts a game day and then nothing more. In that list is Oron, Bard, Ryanderman, Greed and Gregness.

I wasn't going to get into arguing this right now, but since Gregness has paved the way... I had 1 post day 1, 5 posts day 2, and this makes 13 posts day 3. Most of those posts have had meaningful content, and I've made a geniune effort to contribute to this game. I don't like being called out for inactivity, when I've specifically been making an effort to be active. I even took the initiative to start a vote for rpgdemon once I was sufficiently confident he was scum. (admittedly, IHMN had already voted for him, but I'd missed that and didn't know till I went back to do a vote count)

So... yeah.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Oron

Got back from class and read back through a few posts. I've been stuck on the whole "Sifright vs. RPG" fiasco.

Sif's self votes almost seem like bluffs, as if he's saying, "Vote for me. I dare you." Well, the second one sounded pretty ragequit-ish, but he voted for himself and promptly said how stupid voting for him was while RO and Karesh basically said, "Stop that."

It might just seem like that to me because I've been keeping RPG's arguments in mind while reading through the last couple game-days, though. He's made some points that I thought were agreeable, but he has been pretty ardent in questioning Sifright.

It's kind of a split in between the two in my mind, so I'm going to hold off on voting for a little bit. I'm still really busy because I basically have two or three exams every week (last week was my only week without exams for the last month and a half, which is why I was more active then than I am now). I'll come check on this again later tonight.

No the first time I sincerely believed that me dieing would be best for town. Confirming karesh was high on my priority list because i believed we had a near 100% chance of lynching a townie regardless and that me dieing would give the town Karesh to form around. I mean I didn't want to be removed from the game but I honestly believed it was for the best with town. I still to this moment can't understand Snakes thinking with not wanting me to be lynched until day 4.

The second time I legitimately was just giving up, I still don't think we can win we have no information on whats going on. Nikose has been shown to be lying and yet there was a lynch wagon forming around me. So forgive me for thinking my death was going to be inevitable and deciding that town was fucked.

See if Nikose had said "I'm the PO" I wouldn't have been out for him to be lynched but like he's coming from a "Maybe i'm a fake PO" which is sketchy as hell. The only thing that worries me is that Snake could have been a miller role which shows up as Scum to the PO. So I'm not sure what to do but again the obscure character is worrying and the fact that he isn't one of the core six from the show makes it unlikely he has a power role.

[Nikose Tyris]

Originally Posted by Sifright

See if Nikose had said "I'm the PO" I wouldn't have been out for him to be lynched but like he's coming from a "Maybe i'm a fake PO" which is sketchy as hell. The only thing that worries me is that Snake could have been a miller role which shows up as Scum to the PO. So I'm not sure what to do but again the obscure character is worrying and the fact that he isn't one of the core six from the show makes it unlikely he has a power role.

Actually, that's incredibly smart. I just assumed I was smarter then Fenris and knew I was a Fake PO.

...Well shit. that's actually horrible then, that I might be the real PO. :/

Why are you logicking this out better then me. Sif?

[Sifright]

Nikose on the off chance you are PO could you look into the people on the HOS: list i made.

Also for gods sake if you are the PO.

[Nikose Tyris]

I support the lynch of RPGdemon today; I will investigate Bard tonight then, assuming I survive the night.