Still not ginger (Thenew doctor who thread) - Page 11

Steel Shadow · 05-23-2010, 01:12 PM

This one wasn't bad. It's not going to be getting on the favorites list, but it's decent, and who knows, the 2nd part could be pretty good. I'm glad, was pretty worried for a bit there.

On this thread: Noncon's right. Never thought I would say that.

Professor Smarmiarty · 05-23-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

Well, the Doctor did say they could have killed the humans easily, but they were keeping them alive for some reason.

Honestly, I think you're overthinking things in an attempt to find fault with the show. The main problem with that is there are several, far more obvious bits of confusion that you seem to be wholly neglecting. You're still going after the thing that I say is covered by suspension of disbelief, and even then you have to be really digging to come up with that nitpick. There are easier complaints to be had with the episode.

I'm really not nitpicking - I've had issues with other episodes but this is easily the biggest issue they've had so far- there is suspension of disbelief (which lets me forget about things like the angels) and there is just throwing an underground city at us which completely contradicts the reason for these people being underground.
It seems like I'm digging cause you guys were like "What's your reasoning? Duhhhh" so I had to spell it out in graphic detail.
I'm geniunely swore at my tv when that shit came on cause it was a bullshit retcon designed to get a cheap reaction out of the viewer.

Kim · 05-23-2010, 02:18 PM

Any point where a show tells me that an entire species is sleeping 21 km beneath the surface of the Earth, I've stopped caring about things like how they managed to maintain their underground city. There's a lot more suspension of disbelief involved in "entire city under the planet" than "But how did they keep it from decaying over time?" and unless the show goes into detail with any of the latter, I don't expect I'll have any problem maintaining that suspension of disbelief. If I can belief they've been in hibernation under the surface of the Earth, I can believe they have something set up so that they won't die there.

EDIT: In fact, it's pretty explicitly stated that they do have the technology to do everything you're saying. I mean, the episode starts off with them bio-programming or whatever-the-fuck the goddamn soil to eat people.

Nique · 05-23-2010, 05:42 PM

Welp.

This is the first time I've ever wactched Doctor Who - It's always sort of just been in my peripheral so I'm still trying to figure a lot of stuff out. Is it worth it to watch to original episodes (which, if I understand right, go all the way back to the 60s!?) or should I stick with the 2005 and onward set?

Anyway, pretty great show. I love the concept, even if the special effects are, erm, at times embarrassingly budget.

Kim · 05-23-2010, 05:48 PM

Eh, I'd say stick with the new show unless you can handle painfully slow pacing. I tried to watch some of the older series and goddamn it was kinda interesting but everything took forever to happen.

Tev · 05-23-2010, 05:48 PM

Nique, I'd stick with the 2005+ set and see how you like it. Then maybe work your way back.

Nique · 05-23-2010, 09:05 PM

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Eh, I'd say stick with the new show unless you can handle painfully slow pacing. I tried to watch some of the older series and goddamn it was kinda interesting but everything took forever to happen.

Ha. Sounds like the 'Star Trek:TOS' I'm trying to drag myself through right now.

Regulus Tera · 05-25-2010, 03:33 AM

Totally unrelated NonCon, but watch Doctor Who and the Silurians. That's a fucking awesome serial, right there.

Professor Smarmiarty · 05-25-2010, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

EDIT: In fact, it's pretty explicitly stated that they do have the technology to do everything you're saying. I mean, the episode starts off with them bio-programming or whatever-the-fuck the goddamn soil to eat people.

This was m problem. They went underground because the atmosphere on the surface changed, but why couldn't they just change it back. I think it got too hot- just make some clouds. Certainly easier than making earth eat people.
And they can make it so they don't burn alive in the middle of the earth but not on the surface....
And I'm ok with a city in the earth but oddly enough but you better do something ot look after it.

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Originally Posted by Nique

Anyway, pretty great show. I love the concept, even if the special effects are, erm, at times embarrassingly budget.

If that's your view never watch the original cause they were all like tinfoil and eggbeaters. It was kind of the appeal of the old show, what crazy aliens can they make out of household objects.
Also if oyu were to watch it there are 26 seasons with a lot of ridiculousness so I'd just fin da guide somehwere of the best episodes to watch.

Regulus Tera · 05-25-2010, 03:46 AM

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05-23-2010, 01:12 PM	#101
Steel Shadow Mild Psychosis Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Aroundabouts thereish. Posts: 1,246	This one wasn't bad. It's not going to be getting on the favorites list, but it's decent, and who knows, the 2nd part could be pretty good. I'm glad, was pretty worried for a bit there. On this thread: Noncon's right. Never thought I would say that. __________________ Yeah, I'm understating. I do that sometimes.

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Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Any point where a show tells me that an entire species is sleeping 21 km beneath the surface of the Earth, I've stopped caring about things like how they managed to maintain their underground city. There's a lot more suspension of disbelief involved in "entire city under the planet" than "But how did they keep it from decaying over time?" and unless the show goes into detail with any of the latter, I don't expect I'll have any problem maintaining that suspension of disbelief. If I can belief they've been in hibernation under the surface of the Earth, I can believe they have something set up so that they won't die there. EDIT: In fact, it's pretty explicitly stated that they do have the technology to do everything you're saying. I mean, the episode starts off with them bio-programming or whatever-the-fuck the goddamn soil to eat people. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy Last edited by Kim; 05-23-2010 at 02:37 PM.

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Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Eh, I'd say stick with the new show unless you can handle painfully slow pacing. I tried to watch some of the older series and goddamn it was kinda interesting but everything took forever to happen. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

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05-25-2010, 03:33 AM	#108
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	Totally unrelated NonCon, but watch Doctor Who and the Silurians. That's a fucking awesome serial, right there.

05-25-2010, 03:46 AM	#110
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	CAVES OF ANDROZANI CAVES OF MOTHERFUCKING ANDROZANI