Explosions at Boston Marathon

[Bob The Mercenary]

Anyone watching the news right now? They've completely locked down a few towns near Boston. Not letting anyone leave their homes or open businesses.

[Loyal]

Yeah, the MBTA got completely shut down till further notice. My dad tells me he literally cannot remember a prior time they've ever done something like this.

[Bob The Mercenary]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us...&ei=5065&_r=1&

Holy shit.

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Hearing a report that they are from either Chechnya or Turkey, military trained, been here one year.

[Sifright]

Great so still foreign nationals.

Time for more xenophobia in usa.

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by Sifright

Great so still foreign nationals.

Time for more xenophobia in usa.

Yuuuuuuuup.

It looks like they're almost certainly Chechen, which really is a shame since the Russian treatment of the Chechen people is absolutely something that deserves more international interest and is now going to be completely disregarded by your average American in favor of labeling Chechnya a bunch of freedom-hating savages or whatever shitty thing we'll come up with for them.

Or we'll just stick with the usual Islamophobia.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Pretty much. But now they've changed the story to saying they've been here several years as legal residents. This is so bizarre, this whole thing.

[Bells]

its the second wave of shit storm in the media. Are you seeing any stupid "they are russian spies" shit yet? Cause even though that makes no sense, i would expect to see that.

The good thing is that they were caught. And fast. That's what really matters.

The rest of the stuff is left to still be figured out. That will take a couple of days.

[RobinStarwing]

Originally Posted by Bells

its the second wave of shit storm in the media. Are you seeing any stupid "they are russian spies" shit yet? Cause even though that makes no sense, i would expect to see that.

The good thing is that they were caught. And fast. That's what really matters.

The rest of the stuff is left to still be figured out. That will take a couple of days.

They just had the Uncle of the two boys on. The two did not have military training and as of two weeks ago, were not radicalized. The family feels great shame for what these two did but they were not military trained nor did they hate America two weeks ago. He basically called them Losers and any use of Islam to justify their acts was cowardice and fraud of every Muslim's heart (and I agree).

Also, one of the two is dead by shootout with the cops. The other is either in custody or they got him pinned down and unable to run from where he is hiding. The worry right now is pipe bombs as it was confirmed both were still carrying lots of explosives when they were being chased by Law Enforcement.

News Conference on now so I will edit with the info from that.

EDIT: Lockdown still in affect. No one is to answer their doors unless they see it is a Boston Police or other Law Officer. They do not have him yet. I think it is rather awesome that the mayor is out and about even with a broken leg. I think the Gorvernor has soe injuries he should be staying in bed for but if I lived in the city and state...I'd vote for these guys again!

There will also be controlled explosion of some of the bombs they have found by Bomb Squad.

[Bells]

Just for the less educated me to know. Is "lock down" in the same line of thought that ends up with "under siege"? Cause from reports that i'm looking to everywhere, the city is pretty much locked down from end to end with FBI and the police force combing everything through, so i supposed this is not "Boston under siege" simply because the military is not on the ground? And a lack of Bruce Willis?

I also saw reports saying that the gunned down Bomber had explosives on him. Right this instant, i'm not 100% willing to believe that.... BUT... considering that it might just be true... the worries me that they may have though that "we are not getting away with this, so lets go out taking as many as we can with us" and the FBI simply got to them first...

But on that same note... not radicalized up to the last 2 weeks? Is that really all that it takes to break someone down from being a completely normal person to go "die or kill but do it big" ? Seems so little time to warp someone to that degree...

[phil_]

Originally Posted by Bells

But on that same note... not radicalized up to the last 2 weeks? Is that really all that it takes to break someone down from being a completely normal person to go "die or kill but do it big" ? Seems so little time to warp someone to that degree...

What it means is that jumping to blame religion or lack of religion or brainwashing or mental illness as explanations for crimes is lazy and unreliable. "Normal" people can do bad things just as well as The Other. These guys could very well have thought that blowing up runners would accomplish something worth killing people over. It's hardly a rare formulation *cough cough* killing terrorz *cough*. That doesn't make them insane or brainwashed, it makes them murderers.