Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1166

Arcanum · 10-12-2012, 07:29 PM

Well this is going to be awkward.

Loyal · 10-12-2012, 10:06 PM

I will say, this is not a shipping war I could have seen coming.

Glorious.

Dracorion · 10-12-2012, 10:19 PM

Whoa, WHOA.

Where the hell did all this backbone come from, Tavros?

POS Industries · 10-13-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Where the hell did all this backbone come from, Tavros?

It healed up when he became a ghost.

Solid Snake · 10-13-2012, 02:30 PM

Reading Tavros refer to Vriska as his matesprit really felt so out-of-character.
Actually, Tavros in general right now feels really out-of-character.
Like, even aside from the fact that I vehemently oppose the ship.
I'm not a huge fan of John and Vriska either, but if John expressed romantic feelings for Vriska I'd have to at least concede that despite hating the plot twist, it sort of made sense?
But for me this shatters my belief in the narrative. Tavros isn't only aggressively antagonizing John, he genuinely loves Vriska now?!? Welp.

In related news, it's hysterical that these last three strips or so alone single-handily destroyed any appreciation I had for Tavros to such an extent that he's now one of my least favorite characters

EDIT: The irony here is that Hussie created an entire version of romance in blackrom that actually would perfectly fit Tavros and Vriska without in some way appearing to condone her abuse, torture and murder
And he chose to have Tavros suddenly and inexplicably define her as a matesprit anyway

POS Industries · 10-13-2012, 02:53 PM

Yeah, Tavros was always a perfectly nice, considerate, likable guy before. Like when he murdered Jade's grandpa, used the story about it to try to hit on her, and then when she was understandably put off by it reassured her that it was okay ecause he wasn't going to let the whole thing get HIN down or hurt his newfound self-esteem.

His being a complete jerk right here is completely unprecedented.

Solid Snake · 10-13-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by POS Industries

His being a complete jerk right here is completely unprecedented.

Point taken, but I do feel there's a degree of active aggression / hostility with Tavros here that's utterly unlike the passive-aggressive, almost unintentional and misguided sort of douchebaggery that we're used to with him.

I never really liked Tavros -- at best there was sort of a pitiable appreciation for him that bordered on ambivalence, or perhaps there was merely a continual preference to see him 'win' when the alternative was Vriska -- but I hoped there was more a consistency in Hussie's approach to his characterization than this.

Art of Hilt · 10-13-2012, 03:03 PM

I'm chalking it up to Stocholm Syndrome until the next update proves me completely wrong.

Solid Snake · 10-13-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Art of Hilt

I'm chalking it up to Stocholm Syndrome until the next update proves me completely wrong.

But in earlier moments throughout the story when it'd make the most sense for Tavros to experience Stockholm Syndrome, he doesn't!
...I'm probably just upset that this contradicts my headcanon of Tavros as being incapable of traditional troll relationships, though.

POS Industries · 10-13-2012, 03:14 PM

Well, we don't really know how long the two of them have been running around together. Given the "time doesn't really exist" nature of the Furthest Ring, it could have been quite a few years, and Tavros might have grown into the jackass he was always meant to be (idolizing Rufio of all people? this should have been obvious), or spending so much time with Vriska in an environment where she wasn't ACTIVELY abusing him had a negative impact on his personality.

That's more the problem with these timeskips than anything. We're missing a great deal of the time involved where these character developments happen, so while it makes perfect sense from the characters' perspectives for Tavros to be an angry, confrontational asshole or John to be an angsty mess, we're not seeing everything that caused what actually were gradual transformations in their personalities, so they seem like they're completely out of left field.

Of course, I've been pretty up front about my dislike for the timeskip from the moment it was first mentioned, so I've long since gotten over the bulk of my anger regarding it.

10-12-2012, 07:29 PM	#11651
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Well this is going to be awkward. __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

10-12-2012, 10:19 PM	#11653
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Whoa, WHOA. Where the hell did all this backbone come from, Tavros? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

10-13-2012, 02:30 PM	#11655
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Reading Tavros refer to Vriska as his matesprit really felt so out-of-character. Actually, Tavros in general right now feels really out-of-character. Like, even aside from the fact that I vehemently oppose the ship. I'm not a huge fan of John and Vriska either, but if John expressed romantic feelings for Vriska I'd have to at least concede that despite hating the plot twist, it sort of made sense? But for me this shatters my belief in the narrative. Tavros isn't only aggressively antagonizing John, *he genuinely loves Vriska now?!?* Welp. In related news, it's hysterical that these last three strips or so alone single-handily destroyed any appreciation I had for Tavros to such an extent that he's now one of my least favorite characters EDIT: The irony here is that Hussie created an entire version of romance in blackrom that actually would perfectly fit Tavros and Vriska without in some way appearing to condone her abuse, torture and murder And he chose to have Tavros suddenly and inexplicably define her as a matesprit *anyway* __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text. Last edited by Solid Snake; 10-13-2012 at 02:38 PM.

10-13-2012, 02:53 PM	#11656
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Yeah, Tavros was always a perfectly nice, considerate, likable guy before. Like when he murdered Jade's grandpa, used the story about it to try to hit on her, and then when she was understandably put off by it reassured her that it was okay ecause he wasn't going to let the whole thing get HIN down or hurt his newfound self-esteem. His being a complete jerk right here is completely unprecedented. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

10-13-2012, 03:03 PM	#11658
Art of Hilt tamp tamp tamp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,270	I'm chalking it up to Stocholm Syndrome until the next update proves me completely wrong. __________________ Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'. Tossed salad and scrambled eggs Oh My! Mercy! And maybe I seem a bit confused, yeah maybe, but I got you pegged! But I don�t know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs. They're calling again.

10-13-2012, 03:14 PM	#11660
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Well, we don't really know how long the two of them have been running around together. Given the "time doesn't really exist" nature of the Furthest Ring, it could have been quite a few years, and Tavros might have grown into the jackass he was always meant to be (idolizing Rufio of all people? this should have been obvious), or spending so much time with Vriska in an environment where she wasn't ACTIVELY abusing him had a negative impact on his personality. That's more the problem with these timeskips than anything. We're missing a great deal of the time involved where these character developments happen, so while it makes perfect sense from the characters' perspectives for Tavros to be an angry, confrontational asshole or John to be an angsty mess, we're not seeing everything that caused what actually were gradual transformations in their personalities, so they seem like they're completely out of left field. Of course, I've been pretty up front about my dislike for the timeskip from the moment it was first mentioned, so I've long since gotten over the bulk of my anger regarding it. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

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