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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:35 PM   #1161
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Yeah, but I don't think him thinking I am mafia is enough reason to not go with that plan. I think there's likely some other reason he thinks the plan is bad, and why I would be suggesting it, if I'm mafia.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:36 PM   #1162
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Or, it could be as simple as that.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:36 PM   #1163
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Well at this point SK is the biggest threat to mafia as with the vig it gives the chance for three mafia deaths a day night cycle.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:39 PM   #1164
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Well at this point SK is the biggest threat to mafia as with the vig it gives the chance for three mafia deaths a day night cycle.
Yeah, I'm just still not convinced the SK will actually go after mafia. If I thought going after mafia made the most sense for SK, I wouldn't have pushed so hard to lynch rpgdemon. No one's actually tried to counter, or show me flaws in my reasoning. Just flat disagreed.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:44 PM   #1165
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If I thought going after mafia made the most sense for SK, I wouldn't have pushed so hard to lynch rpgdemon. No one's actually tried to counter, or show me flaws in my reasoning. Just flat disagreed.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:46 PM   #1166
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Yeah, I'm just still not convinced the SK will actually go after mafia. If I thought going after mafia made the most sense for SK, I wouldn't have pushed so hard to lynch rpgdemon. No one's actually tried to counter, or show me flaws in my reasoning. Just flat disagreed.
Basically it comes down to a lack of town targets, Julford is inactive and has done nothing presumably he is town. So that drops us to 8 townies capable of voting. Assume we are wrong and Nikose is town. That drops us to 7. Mafia kill again during the night bam instantly down to 6 town votes the next day meaning mafia control day lynchs and night kills. Mafia really really want the SK and the VIG dead because it gives them much much easier time. Sk wants to kill mafia because they are a cohesive voting block with their power waxxing each day that one of their members doesn't die.

If mafiates aren't killed this game day/night They have won.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:58 PM   #1167
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Vote count!

Nikose 6
Sifright
Gregness
IHMN
Hawk
Ryanderman
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Ryanderman 1
rpgdemon

rpgdemon 1
Bard

greed 3
Aldurin
Revolving Ocelot
Karesh

Gregness 1
Nikose

8 To Lynch, deadline tomorrow night!

btw 3 people got up to 6 votes. It was pretty fantastic.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:58 PM   #1168
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Basically it comes down to a lack of town targets, Julford is inactive and has done nothing presumably he is town. So that drops us to 8 townies capable of voting. Assume we are wrong and Nikose is town. That drops us to 7. Mafia kill again during the night bam instantly down to 6 town votes the next day meaning mafia control day lynchs and night kills. Mafia really really want the SK and the VIG dead because it gives them much much easier time. Sk wants to kill mafia because they are a cohesive voting block with their power waxxing each day that one of their members doesn't die.

If mafiates aren't killed this game day/night They have won.
That's an excellent argument for why mafia would want the SK dead, and why the town shouldn't focus on the SK right now. I was trying to look at it from the SK's perspective, but I didn't take into account how close the mafia is to gaining a majority. That is really close. The SK is going to feel pressure from that, and I could see how he would swing toward mafia targets, even though he'll also be feeling a need to eliminate the town roles that can out him.

I really didn't realize how close the mafia was.

So given that there is a fair chance the SK will try to hit mafia, and given how close the mafia is to getting a majority, I can wholeheartedly support a Nikose lynch today. Still think having Gregness block rpgdemon would be a good thing, but not going to push for it.

As for IHMN, all I can say is that it wasn't about pulling a lynch off Nikose, but because I'd convinced myself the SK was, while maybe not the bigger threat, the threat that should be dealt with first, since the effects of elimintating him would be immediate, while it'll take time to eliminate the mafia. I guess I was wrong, but I was trying to be helpful.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:59 PM   #1169
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Whats that IHMN, Billy fell down a well? Lead the way boy!

Anyways, I got some backlog to read, but my thoughts on the SK thing: it seems unlikely to me that roleblocking RPG will be successful, especially when its been reuqested to do it. If I was SK, I'd just totally not kill anyone to make it look like the roleblock was successful.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:59 PM   #1170
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I unvoted rpgdemon and voted Nikose in separate posts.
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