Pokemon Umbral Theatre 14: Beloved Godlord Dracorion

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Not really said but implied.

You did say in one of the discussion threads something along the lines that you'd make Rachel available for the Faynoc battle.

And this:

*See color text in post above*

implies that Discord is inside as well, and I very much doubt she'd go inside alone.

So who, if anyone, is inside the facility but not part of one of the teams? Shizuka, Chizuru and Ricewood not counting.

That presumably is incorrect.

See, the Watchmen got in because they used some sort of device that explosively opened the locks on the (first?) set of doors.
However, the doors didn't stay open, closing as the Watchmen went in. This meant that the ones who didn't make it through the door needed an alternative way to bust in. The suggestion being using the brute offensive force of pokemons to bust in, as Discord said. However, since the Watchmen already went inside and gone deeper in, Discord and everyone else has to wait for "outside assistance" since they don't have enough numbers of pokemons with the sort of brute force needed to get in.


That said, since AB didn't intend for us to have NPCs from outside, I guess that means our only choices for the DSS is presumably Lola/Melanie since everyone else will have either found an unclaimed spot (Like Violet and Jeanette for enforcer slots) or will not be partipicating (Elizabeth, according to you).

[Dracorion]

Are you for whatever reason implying that there's more than one set of doors and Discord is trapped in-between?

Because there's been no mention of such. Which means you're stupid.

Also, I didn't say Elizabeth wouldn't participate. She'll be available for the DSS, but we can only have one Engineer so we'd have to choose between her and Mirror.

[Menarker]

No, I didn't think Discord was trapped inside between doors. That would be stupid. But it's pretty weird that the locks would be blown open the first time and then "suddenly repaired" as the door closes.

ANYHOW, my main point is not about the locks but rather the lack of pokemon numbers within the outside force needed to open the door in the first place or so.

You said you might have to shaft Elizabeth, but having the option to choose her is nice.


Anyhow, does anyone have any thoughts for who we want for Engineer?

Mirror
+ Slayer type that resist poison and immune to poison status. Assuming Granx's presence.
+ Uses Stat boosters as opposed to Inhibitors which might be resisted by bosses.
+ Dusk Evolith can use Punishment which is incredibly powerful if anyone including bosses buff themselves.
- No pokemons and thus easier to directly attack.
- Her techniques do not stand out much or has too much randomness. Not very effective against bosses either.

Elizabeth
+ If we're fighting against other trainers, the ability to snag new pokemons will ensure she keeps a long stream of defenses as long as their happiness and the flow of enemy pokemons last.
+ Trainer Actions
+ Healing Dispenser
+ Psychic Evolith useful against Granx. (Since Evoliths don't actually have types, the steel one isn't immune to poison like steel type pokemons would.)
+ Inhibitors useful against mooks. (Although one could say that enhancers would be better in this situation)
- Inhibitors might be resisted by bosses/mechs?
- None of her base pokemons are likely to be particularly useful against Granx. Leprihare only has HM moves to attack with more than once (Strength and Rock Smash. Cut sucks serious ass). Sceptile weak to poison!
- Snagging is inherently luck based (don't know IF we'll encounter enemy pokemons, nevermind which types or if they have good movesets)


Which of her trainer actions does Elizabeth currently has access to? I'm under the impression is supposed to level up with each mission just like the rest of us.
Does she have a limit on Snagballs? Does she even have an inventory to carry them?

That said, I would choose Elizabeth in the final team. Also fitting since it's her debut and your side-quest to begin with. But even if that wasn't the case, several of her supporting abilities are really useful.

Uh... that said, I probably should avoid using Mollesk's Intrusion ability too much around her and Leprihare, since they might get some wild ideas in their heads. <_<;

[Dracorion]

Technically it was never said explosions were used to open the locks.

Just that some device destroyed the locks. And how the doors got closed afterwards, I'm thinking double doors in case of emergency. Like someone opening the first doors.

As for why not have the double doors active in the first place, because it'd be inconvenient to do so.

Also, I would like to point out that ALL the Evoliths are immune to poison by virtue of being mechanical attribute.

I dunno which Trainer Actions Elizabeth has access to. She gets them in the order they're listed on her profile. Check her upgrades to see how many she has available now.

[Menarker]

I meant Poison as in ATTACK TYPE. Yes, they are all immune to the poison STATUS. But none of them, not even the steel evoliths would be immune to the poison type attacks like Sludge Bomb or what not.

Kinda like how poison type pokemons can't be poisoned but they can be hurt by poison types moves (although not very effective unless the pokemon they are hitting are also grass types, thus making it neutral at best.)


Anyhow, I guess the rest of the group has to choose between:

Elizabeth and Mirror
Lola and Melanie

The rest of the NPCs are lucky enough to have just enough empty slots to fit them in.

My votes, as said repeatably is Elizabeth and Lola.

[Dracorion]

There's a reason everyone's ignored your constant defence of Lola so far.

[Menarker]

*Shrug* I already said I have heavy preference toward Lola, no hiding that. But as already mentioned above in post 99, I already gave reasons as to why I felt she was the better option. I just don't see any discussion from anyone else, which I'm inviting. Unless it is silently implied that you all agree with what I'm saying and just wished I'd shut up about it.

"Yes Yes, we agree on Lola! GET ON WITH IT!!!"

I'm just trying to see what's the concensus is regarding the DSS for the final battle. Since you said recently that Elizabeth is an option, I went and elaborates the difference between her and Mirror. Inviting discussion for that if anyone thinks otherwise.


^^ Bard, just out of curiousity, have you ever watched Reservoir Dogs? Charlotte strikes me very much to be like Mr. Blonde. ^^

[Bard The 5th LW]

I've heard it a bunch of times, but I really know nothing about it. Might look it up some time.

Edit: I decided this thread doesn't have enough horrible in it.

[Menarker]

... you certainly made it pretty horrible now...

Any luck with your planning?