We are heading towards an Idiocracy!

[Tev]

I was under the impression, having watched the bit on his show, that the point was to call out Donald Trump for calling out Jon Stewart in a tweet and saying that it was shameful that he would use his middle name for show-business and not use his real last name of Leibowitz because he was supposedly ashamed of his Jewish heritage.

Like, it was just a joke bit making fun of Trump for making fun of Stewart. Anything beyond that is digging a bit too deeply in my opinion.

[Seil]

Fact checkers state Hillary Clinton most honest presidential candidate.

[Nikose Tyris]

Sanders: 23 "Mostly False" and "False" answers.
Clinton: 47 "Mostly False" and "False" answers. Plus 2 "Pants on Fire" categories.

Some of the Sander's "False" are generalizations that are too far-reaching, such as "When you're white ... you don't know what it's like to be poor." The line was uttered during the Flint Michigan debate.

Bernie's false statements tend to be generalizing for public response.

Here's the URL for checking up the PF page on his false statements specifically.

Hillary's "False" statements include a greater focus on praising herself or slamming her opponents, such as "The Clean Power Plan is something that Sen. Sanders has said he would delay implementing." or "Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."

Take a look at Hillary's record yourself too.

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I believe Politifact would rate Daily News Bin's statement as "False" based on their trend of treating mis-represented data as "False" statements (Hillary is only more honest in terms of percentage of checked statements. Hillary is weighed down by her need to badmouth other people in the raw data.)

[Solid Snake]

Donald Trump's diplomatic strategy seems to be insulting the ally who's the victim of a terrorist attack after they've been victimized by said attack, which is so fucking slimy, but instead the media's all fawning and like "OOOOH Donald's gonna get a boost in the polls, he's so tough on terror!!!!!!"

What does it say about my own eroding humanity that at this point in time if Trump were assassinated I'd want the sniper to receive a goddamn medal for saving humankind instead of being prosecuted? Donald Trump isn't just a monster, he makes monsters out of his supporters and also possibly even his opponents.

[Bum Bill Bee]

I have an ever lingering fear that Trump will win, just because of all the anti-SJW backlash I see, people getting disillusioned with the two term Democratic previous president, and people not wanting "another Clinton" in the Whitehouse.



Anyways, if the Trump-man did get assassinated, I'd just reward the sniper with a very reduced sentence. Fair is fair.

[Bard The 5th LW]

At this stage my ability to give shit about who wins the Republican nomination is really waning. They're getting closer to denying him a real majority, but even if things do come down to a contested convention, they're only other option is Ted Cruz. And honestly the difference between Trump and Cruz is like, the difference between drinking hemlock and slitting my wrists. Neither are remotely preferable situations.

[Ryanderman]

The way I see it, neither Trump nor Cruz are likely to win the general election, but Cruz nomination would mean a more conventional general election season, improving Hillary's (Or Bernie's {crosses fingers}) odds of winning. If Trump wins the nomination conventional wisdom goes out the window. Hillary has enough skeletons in her closet for Trump to make hay of in his unique way that I'm actually worried about her chances against him. I'm not too worried about her chances against Cruz.

Plus, if Trump gets angry enough when the convention takes the nomination away from him he could run third party, which would be excellent.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Originally Posted by Ryanderman

The way I see it, neither Trump nor Cruz are likely to win the general election, but Cruz nomination would mean a more conventional general election season, improving Hillary's (Or Bernie's {crosses fingers}) odds of winning. If Trump wins the nomination conventional wisdom goes out the window. Hillary has enough skeletons in her closet for Trump to make hay of in his unique way that I'm actually worried about her chances against him. I'm not too worried about her chances against Cruz.

Plus, if Trump gets angry enough when the convention takes the nomination away from him he could run third party, which would be excellent.

I guess when it comes down to it, I'd like to see Trump lose the nomination just for the sake of seeing him lose.

[Ryanderman]

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

I guess when it comes down to it, I'd like to see Trump lose the nomination just for the sake of seeing him lose.

That too.

[Solid Snake]

Trump will threaten to run third party so long as he has more delegates than Cruz heading into the Convention. The best case scenario (or really, the least awful scenario) for the Republican establishment is that Cruz somehow manages to win enough of the upcoming winner-take-all states that he leads Trump's numbers into a brokered convention, as it'll remove any factual basis for Trump to argue his way into an independent candidacy if he's blocked out.

If Cruz can't beat Trump's delegate numbers, it'd actually make more sense for the GOP to ride Trump this year and essentially concede defeat in 2016 than to orchestrate machinations to steal the crown from him. The Republicans can't afford to alienate a huge plurality of their base from supporting them in the future, or they won't just risk Trump's independent candidacy, they'll also risk figures like him, Palin, and other nutjobs from creating a new Populist Right-wing Party that emulates Republicans on most social issues but is anti-free trade and bigoted as all hell. A White Power Party (though it certainly wouldn't be called that) would devastate Republicans.

Coincidentally, I want that to happen not only to screw over Republicans in the short term, but also because it may enable the conditions in the long-term for socialist left-wing progressives to split from the center-left Democrats and create a new Socialist or Progressive political party. That or the fracturing of the Republican base will simply enable the Democratic Party to retain majorities in the legislative branches and control the White House while pivoting further to the left. Either possibility would be great.